Cheaper holidays EV charging
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Rufs replied on 22/07/2023 12:15
Posted on 22/07/2023 12:15
Not sure re cheaper holidays, cant imagine towing my 1575kgs of metal with an EV just yet, but an interesting article today "Fire crews' fears over electric car blazes" says that brigades are now sending 2 units to every EV blaze because "their batteries cause rocket like infernos when ablaze" and are difficult to extinguish and toxic fumes such as hydrogen cyanide are released, a professor has stated that ev's are less likely to catch fire than petrol or diesel but imagine one going up in flames on a camp site
ChocolateTrees replied on 22/07/2023 14:55
Posted on 22/07/2023 08:16 byWe will have to disagree, I normally break my journeys up into 200-270 mile days largely governed by where we want to spend the night . Availability of facilities for refuelling the car never comes into it neither does the weather. I expect things will improve eventually but as things stand your description the planning that went into of a trip to the lakes would turn a cross continent trip into a nightmare.
Posted on 22/07/2023 14:55
AD - Agreeing to disagree is fine :-) Our philosophy on towing varies, as it does for many on here independent of tow car type or outfit.
Rocky - Thanks for the upvote :-) There are two facebook groups now that focus on EV towing. They have a whole range of folks towing everything from teardrops to twin axles. There is quite a breadth of knowledge and experience building up that is being shared round the UK. The experience is found to be good by those for whom the towing style is suited (which is not for everyone - Right, AD )
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replied on 22/07/2023 15:12
Posted on 22/07/2023 14:55 by ChocolateTreesAD - Agreeing to disagree is fine :-) Our philosophy on towing varies, as it does for many on here independent of tow car type or outfit.
Rocky - Thanks for the upvote :-) There are two facebook groups now that focus on EV towing. They have a whole range of folks towing everything from teardrops to twin axles. There is quite a breadth of knowledge and experience building up that is being shared round the UK. The experience is found to be good by those for whom the towing style is suited (which is not for everyone - Right, AD )
Rocky 2 buckets replied on 22/07/2023 16:34
Posted on 22/07/2023 14:55 by ChocolateTreesAD - Agreeing to disagree is fine :-) Our philosophy on towing varies, as it does for many on here independent of tow car type or outfit.
Rocky - Thanks for the upvote :-) There are two facebook groups now that focus on EV towing. They have a whole range of folks towing everything from teardrops to twin axles. There is quite a breadth of knowledge and experience building up that is being shared round the UK. The experience is found to be good by those for whom the towing style is suited (which is not for everyone - Right, AD )
Posted on 22/07/2023 16:34
They look promising ChocT thanks. The whole like minded souls thing sounds good. It takes an open mind to accept new concepts & innovation combined with the first step forward(1st EV buy) into the unknown. I am a consumer of everything innovative like Solar, wind & EV. The future is bright👍🏻
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GTrimmer replied on 29/07/2023 14:45
Posted on 29/07/2023 14:45
This isn't specifically about EV's, but must also apply to almost anything powered by Lithium Ion batteries.
If you have an EV, have a look so you're aware. If you're thinking about an EV, it might give you grounds to re-consider..............
I have no plans to ever own a BEV ..... and now I'll be even more careful not to crash into one too !
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Rufs replied on 30/07/2023 08:52
Posted on 29/07/2023 14:45 by GTrimmerThis isn't specifically about EV's, but must also apply to almost anything powered by Lithium Ion batteries.
If you have an EV, have a look so you're aware. If you're thinking about an EV, it might give you grounds to re-consider..............I have no plans to ever own a BEV ..... and now I'll be even more careful not to crash into one too !
Posted on 30/07/2023 08:52
Another environmental hazard being released onto our highways with consequencies that we are not yet aware of, there are reports of Fire Station commanders having to send two units to any fire involving an EV as the fire is so intense one unit cannot cope, there is a car transporter burning out of control off the coast of Holland believed to have been started by a fire in an EV, next will be insurance hikes to cover the dangers of EV's on our roads and in our garages, best get our bicycles out would seem a much safer way to travel
DavidKlyne replied on 30/07/2023 10:40
Posted on 30/07/2023 10:40
Perhaps a more balanced view? https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/are-electric-car-fires-really-that-common/
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Amesford replied on 30/07/2023 12:03
Tinwheeler replied on 30/07/2023 12:15
Posted on 30/07/2023 12:03 by AmesfordI have read that Toyota are developing a new type of battery also a hydrogen engine TATA are building a large factory in Cornwall to manufacture batteries and so they will be digging up Cornwall looking for lithium
Posted on 30/07/2023 12:15
TATA are building their factory at Bridgwater in Somerset.
Cornish Lithium has been mining in Cornwall since 2016. They have recently joined forces with Imerys, the China Clay mining company, and are reworking old mining sites. That is nothing to do with TATA.
Rufs replied on 30/07/2023 13:41
Posted on 30/07/2023 10:40 by DavidKlynePerhaps a more balanced view? https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/are-electric-car-fires-really-that-common/
Posted on 30/07/2023 13:41
Given that today there are many more millions of ICE cars on our roads than EV's, and that even today fire services are having difficulty tackling EV fires and the fact that even when they think the fire has been extinguished it has the ability to re-ignite itself or in fact to burn for many days has to be a worry and i find this disturbing
" Certainly the issues of fighting EV fires has raised issues about EV batteris in other areas. Installing EV charging points in such places as underground car parks may need to be reconsidered"
our local general hospital has already installed charging points in a newly built multi storey car park, ok they are not exactly underground but they are only a roadswidth from the hospital buildings.
"China was the first to adopt new regulations focused on thermal runaway, which include a requirement for fire and smoke to contained within the battery pack for at least five minutes after first ignition. While this regulation is yet to be formally adopted in Europe, manufacturers are building EVs to meet these requirements to pre-empt likely future regulation."
I guess a step in the right direction, but are new EV's rolling off the production line built to this standard ? if not how many millions of EV's out there will not have this feature.
they are now saying that it is reported that 500 EV's are on board the car transporter and that it could take weeks to burn itself out
How much hydrofluoric acid released into the atmosphere ???
not sure "cheaper holidays" if one of these went up on a crowded caravan site today it would be carnage, yes you could say "when was there last a car fire on a caravan site" thankfully very few i feel
KSKAT
Caravanner from Cleveland