Auto tow cars

bazandwen replied on 26/04/2021 21:04

Posted on 26/04/2021 21:04

I am having a nightmare with our ford Kuga auto 2013 . new gear box after 20000 miles rear axel helix after 46000 miles and the drive has gone again either clutch or transmission if the later ford replacement is about 6000. !!!! are there any cars out there with standard auto gearbox's and not tiptronic type. any views and advice welcome need auto as easier for my wife to drive day to day. we are towing a coachman 575. 

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IanTG replied on 27/04/2021 10:00

Posted on 27/04/2021 10:00

Well, can’t speak about the technicalities of exactly what type of gearbox, but I had a 2016 Hyundai Santa Fe with absolutely zero trouble. Now changed to BMW X5 last September . Limited towing so far but very good as far as I can tell. Got it for more power with heavier van.

Neither vehicle of course had done the mileage yours had.

EmilysDad replied on 27/04/2021 10:09

Posted on 27/04/2021 10:09

'Tiptronic' is a red herring. There are 'proper' slush box, torque converter autos that have flappy paddles to manually change gear eg my ML Merc but there are also automated manual gear boxes with flappy paddles eg VW's DSG & I think your Ford Kuga.

I would not tow with an automated manual .... though many here do so

Tinwheeler replied on 27/04/2021 10:17

Posted on 27/04/2021 10:17

The torque converter auto boxes are the old tried and tested and, in many people's view, the best.

Dual clutch boxes, CVT, and automated manuals have often been found to be lacking either in performance or reliability.

It's noticeable that the motor industry is gradually moving back towards the good old TC boxes, including some of the French offerings, and I think I'm right in saying that Hyundai and Kia have always used them in their bigger cars - Sante Fe and Sorento. That's where I'd start looking, B&W, and always get the salesman to find out what sort of box is used.

EmilysDad replied on 27/04/2021 10:44

Posted on 27/04/2021 10:44

The trouble with asking the sales staff is that they don't always know their ar5e from their elbow. I asked about Kia' s autos at 2 different places & got 2 different answers  😉

Tinwheeler replied on 27/04/2021 10:48

Posted on 27/04/2021 10:44 by EmilysDad

The trouble with asking the sales staff is that they don't always know their ar5e from their elbow. I asked about Kia' s autos at 2 different places & got 2 different answers  😉

Posted on 27/04/2021 10:48

That's why I said "get the salesman to find out"🙄. That is, ask a man in the workshop.

flatcoat replied on 27/04/2021 12:25

Posted on 27/04/2021 12:25

The reality is that Ford’s copy of the VW DSG box is poor and unreliable, (just search on Honest John) hence they have now reverted to T/C skushbox. The VW DSG comes in 2 versions, dry and wet clutch. The former is cr8p, the latter is fine as long as it is regularly serviced (40k miles). I believe the same applies to the Ford version insofar as they need regular fluid and filter changes as does the Haldex 4wd differential. I have had 2 VW group cars with wet clutch DSG towing to over 100k miles without any problems. my current tug, Volvo automatic has a T/C box but it is still unofficially recommended to have a fluid change every 50k miles or so if towing. 

best source for info for any car is to look at a forum dedicated to that brand. So search for a Ford UK forum to get a better informed response.

EmilysDad replied on 27/04/2021 14:41

Posted on 27/04/2021 10:48 by Tinwheeler

That's why I said "get the salesman to find out"🙄. That is, ask a man in the workshop.

Posted on 27/04/2021 14:41

That's what I did at the 3rd Kia dealer 😉

Lutz replied on 27/04/2021 16:34

Posted on 27/04/2021 16:34

I have towed with an automatic for the past 20 years. The first 8 years with a torque converter ('slush' box) then 7 years with a CVT and 5 years now with an automated manual. Couldn't fault any of them.

commeyras replied on 27/04/2021 17:49

Posted on 27/04/2021 17:49

I have driven and towed with VW DSG cars since 2009 (a Passat and 2 x Tiguans) and never had any trouble.   I have towed all over Europe, over the Alps and as far as Croatia.  The OP has been very unlucky!

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