C&MC Tourism Aires

CraigPowell replied on 05/08/2022 11:50

Posted on 05/08/2022 11:50

Reading the latest magazine about developing tourism, has any thought been given to the club getting more involved with attractions to provide more formal parking and potentially stopovers for caravans and motorhomes? Having bookable places in a dedicated part of the car park with nominal charges for overnight stays? Maybe partner with National Trust or English Heritage? I accept probably not of much interest to caravaners but certainly motorhome tourers are sometimes deterred by disorganised or hard to access parking.

Cornersteady replied on 05/08/2022 17:56

Posted on 05/08/2022 14:55 by eurortraveller

If I buy a bike even though there are no cycle lanes here. Someone should provide them for me.

If I buy an electric car even though there are hardly any charging points here. Someone should provide them for me.

If I buy a motorhome even though there are hardly any Aires. Someone should provide them for me.

I want.

 

Posted on 05/08/2022 17:56

+1

Wherenext replied on 05/08/2022 19:07

Posted on 05/08/2022 15:52 by Takethedogalong

I think your two first examples might be a little disingenuous.  🤔😁

I want more safe cycle lanes so that I don’t get squashed, knocked off, run over, abused, etc… while I try to stay fit and healthy (less of an NHS burden) and help the Planet generally (despite having no children of my own)

Same with electric vehicles, trying to improve emissions locally, and contribute towards saving the Planet.

Touring outfit ownership is more niche, and debatable in terms of healthy lifestyle and saving the Planet, mainly the choice of those with a degree of disposable income. Employs a good few though……😁

Posted on 05/08/2022 19:07

This is what my thoughts were when I first read EuroT's post so a +1 from me.

DavidKlyne replied on 05/08/2022 20:28

Posted on 05/08/2022 14:55 by eurortraveller

If I buy a bike even though there are no cycle lanes here. Someone should provide them for me.

If I buy an electric car even though there are hardly any charging points here. Someone should provide them for me.

If I buy a motorhome even though there are hardly any Aires. Someone should provide them for me.

I want.

 

Posted on 05/08/2022 20:28

Head in the sand methinks!!! There are lots of benefits in terms of health to encourage people to cycle and to that end it is not unreasonable for the Government/Local Authority to encourage that by providing facilities for safe cycling and for the public to want them to do that. For some places it was designed into the built environment. The same is true of electric cars. If you want to discourage people from usings ICE cars and move to electric you have to provide incentives and in the case of EV's that is a charging infrastructure. I think all the OP is suggesting that the Club get a bit more involved in providing information about motorhome parking. Even if you leave aside the overnight issue it would be good to have info on day time parking. How many of the articles in the magazine on various areas of the country ever mention the possibility of being able to park a motorhome at any of the attractions? It depends on how you see the Club. Is it just a provider of campsites or a provider on information to its members, surely it should be both? The Club go out of their way to provide towing courses, they publish extensive guides to touring Europe so why not extend that to helping motorhomers with information on parking or use their influence to encourage the provision of at least day time parking for motorhomers.

David

N1805 replied on 06/08/2022 08:36

Posted on 06/08/2022 08:36

Craig Powell - As previous posters say CAMC have said in the past there are no plans to provide the type of facility you are suggesting and Nat Trust do not appear at this moment in time to be allowing ‘paid for’ overnight parking after their trial as far as I am aware.

 Personally, I can only guess that it is not financially viable for these organisations to provide overnight parking for a nominal fee and it would IMHO be even less cost effective for them to provide a bookable system as you are suggesting. 

Neither do I feel it would be in the club’s best interest (financially) to get involved with attractions as you say “to provide more formal parking and potentially stopovers for caravans and motorhomes”.  CAMC’s core business is to sell its own pitches and I’m not sure ‘lobbying’ attractions to provide specific formal daytime or overnight parking spaces for caravans/motorhomes would be the best use of their time.

MMM magazine used to provide a booklet listing car parks that provided daytime spaces for motorhomes not sure if they still do this. I think the info was provided by its readers so may not always have been up to date.

There are overnight providers out there but I am not sure any are bookable

Perhaps you may get current up to date info to your questions from CAMC and Nat Trust head offices. 

KeefySher replied on 06/08/2022 12:21

Posted on 06/08/2022 12:21

If I buy a bike even though there are no cycle lanes here. Someone should provide them for me.

 

We have a fantastic cycle path network where we live, paid for out of our council tax.

Most useful to cycle approx 7 miles to the train station, fold it, get on train to Londinium and onward cycle paths to the office when required.

20 mile round trip to the pub.

Pop to the supermarket.

Vey few cyclists use the network, instead like the local cycle club ride 4 abreast blocking the road carriageway that runs alongside the wide cycleway. I'm unsure if cyclists are making a point, being obstreperous, or just intellectually challenged tongue-out

SteveL replied on 06/08/2022 13:12

Posted on 05/08/2022 15:43 by brue

The NT also has quite a few campsites of it's own in some good spots. However they also have many car parks that CAMC doesn't have.

All these organisations including CAMC are doing whatever they can to provide a variety of pitches and make things viable too.

The suggestions about looking up alternatives provides plenty of choice in the face of CAMC site  limits on space and parking. There are lots of alternatives already.smile

Posted on 06/08/2022 13:12

Trouble is they penalise you for being a member by including access to the property in the price, which is of course inflated to cover this. Not a bad deal if your not a NT member, but not so good if you are as there is no discount.

SteveL replied on 06/08/2022 13:17

Posted on 05/08/2022 20:28 by DavidKlyne

Head in the sand methinks!!! There are lots of benefits in terms of health to encourage people to cycle and to that end it is not unreasonable for the Government/Local Authority to encourage that by providing facilities for safe cycling and for the public to want them to do that. For some places it was designed into the built environment. The same is true of electric cars. If you want to discourage people from usings ICE cars and move to electric you have to provide incentives and in the case of EV's that is a charging infrastructure. I think all the OP is suggesting that the Club get a bit more involved in providing information about motorhome parking. Even if you leave aside the overnight issue it would be good to have info on day time parking. How many of the articles in the magazine on various areas of the country ever mention the possibility of being able to park a motorhome at any of the attractions? It depends on how you see the Club. Is it just a provider of campsites or a provider on information to its members, surely it should be both? The Club go out of their way to provide towing courses, they publish extensive guides to touring Europe so why not extend that to helping motorhomers with information on parking or use their influence to encourage the provision of at least day time parking for motorhomers.

David

Posted on 06/08/2022 13:17

It’s not just info on parking. As the other thread on getting into Glasgow from Strathclyde country park shows, they don’t even provide any basic information on public transport.

GTrimmer replied on 06/08/2022 17:29

Posted on 06/08/2022 12:21 by KeefySher

If I buy a bike even though there are no cycle lanes here. Someone should provide them for me.

 

We have a fantastic cycle path network where we live, paid for out of our council tax.

Most useful to cycle approx 7 miles to the train station, fold it, get on train to Londinium and onward cycle paths to the office when required.

20 mile round trip to the pub.

Pop to the supermarket.

Vey few cyclists use the network, instead like the local cycle club ride 4 abreast blocking the road carriageway that runs alongside the wide cycleway. I'm unsure if cyclists are making a point, being obstreperous, or just intellectually challenged tongue-out

Posted on 06/08/2022 17:29

Same around here. litreally millions spent on cycle paths but they still ride in the road !

viatorem replied on 09/08/2022 14:05

Posted on 09/08/2022 14:05

Whilst the CAMC struggles to be inclusive catering for touring outfits, seasonal pitches, CLs, Camping pods, non members etc why would they want to provide exclusive facilities? If CampRa raised some capital from its members and actually ran a handful of Aires to substantiate their claims surely the freeby ones they are after would follow.

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