Is it worth renewing

geordie01 replied on 30/12/2020 11:47

Posted on 30/12/2020 11:47

Our membership is up for renewal soon I just cannot see the point in doing it at this point in time. The last time we were away on a site was September and at this time we do not know when the next time will be.Any one got any thoughts on this ?

Tinwheeler replied on 02/01/2021 13:33

Posted on 02/01/2021 13:25 by Takethedogalong

The Dutch seem to love them, our Jeep Club had a lot of Dutch members who would come across for events, sleep up in tents on roof racks, pullout extensions to rear of Jeeps, and as I say, those wonderful Pinzgauers. They can be tall vehicles though, as you say. Step ladder just to get into cab.

I think the vast majority of folks would like to know that they are pitched next to a safe outfit, with occupants happy to follow Site rules and guidance. But tents don’t have fixed in beds or fixed in cookers. CCC doesn’t make this an issue, nor do many UK private Sites. Decent spacing, staff discreetly monitoring common sense living. 

Has anyone ever seen a roof tent on a pitch at a Club Site, not in the camping area, if there is one? It’s not something we have seen, maybe JK has?🤔

Posted on 02/01/2021 13:33

Yes!

Ah, you didn't say which club🤔

JVB66 replied on 02/01/2021 13:35

Posted on 02/01/2021 12:12 by

 Managed to find a picture of the East German Army truck used by a delightful young couple we met . Top of the cab had a plate blanking off where the machine gun would have been mounted. They got the truck cheap as it was petrol driven, We didnt go inside so dont know if they were mattress sleeping wink

Posted on 02/01/2021 13:35

Quite a few yeras ago there was on a site a WW2 Bedford ex RAF fuel tanker ,that the owner had replaced  the tank with a caravan body and he had also put a roof hatch where the bren gun used to fit in the cab roofsurprised

JVB66 replied on 02/01/2021 13:59

Posted on 02/01/2021 13:59

I have seen in the distant past a real Land Rover110 with a tent on the roof,the kitchen was swung out from the back of the vehicle to the left and a canvas toilet tent with toilet to the rightsurprised

JVB66 replied on 02/01/2021 14:15

Posted on 02/01/2021 12:36 by MikeyA

A few years ago we hired a  motorhome in Australia. One night we were staying on a campsite in the Hunter Valley wine growing area and a family arrived quite late with their caravan. The following morning we noticed the father and eldest son had not stayed in the caravan but had simply slept under the stars in sleeping bags.

I'm definitely sure the CAMC would have a rule against that!

Posted on 02/01/2021 14:15

When at a cclub site in the Cotswolds our grandaughter and her boyfriend bedded down in sleeping  bags under our windout canopy when staying with us in 2019 during a hot weekend rather than put their pup tent upcool

brue replied on 02/01/2021 14:23

Posted on 02/01/2021 13:20 by DavidKlyne

Why would you immediately jump to the conclusion that the reason for the rules are to do with elitism? Surely the purpose of the rules is to make sure the vehicle is safe to use on a site. Just imagine the situation of a rainy day and someone trying to cook on a free standing camping stove inside said vehicle and it gets knocked over, causes a fire and puts other units at risk. Personally I am glad that the Club takes H&S seriously. 

Posted on 02/01/2021 14:23

My thoughts on that is the occupants of van would be just as careful as the occupants of a fully equipped palace on wheels. We see what happens every year with some incidents, but they are rare thankfully.

On those grounds why does the club accept tents with an air mattress inside and camping cookers?!

We used to attend VSCC meetings where we saw huge coachbuilt motorhomes along side tents and safari landrovers, no one objected on the ground of looks and safety was important to all.

JollyKernow replied on 02/01/2021 17:25

Posted on 02/01/2021 13:20 by DavidKlyne

Why would you immediately jump to the conclusion that the reason for the rules are to do with elitism? Surely the purpose of the rules is to make sure the vehicle is safe to use on a site. Just imagine the situation of a rainy day and someone trying to cook on a free standing camping stove inside said vehicle and it gets knocked over, causes a fire and puts other units at risk. Personally I am glad that the Club takes H&S seriously. 

Posted on 02/01/2021 17:25

In 11 years working with the club I've only ever had a look in 3 vans (not inspect) in that time and only one of those was in my opinion unsafe with a camping gas stove balanced on the front seat and a sleeping bag on the floor. It's not just the fire risk but the equally dangerous risk of CO poisoning. To me how anyone wants to camp is entirely up to them but the club takes the safety of it's staff and customers seriously. I do find it strange that that duty of care can be construed as having an elitist attitude but hey. Take a look around a club site during the summer, just like any other site, elitist it definitely ain'twink

JK

Takethedogalong replied on 02/01/2021 17:28

Posted on 02/01/2021 13:33 by Tinwheeler

Yes!

Ah, you didn't say which club🤔

Posted on 02/01/2021 17:28

Now that’s brave, a Freelander. Not the tent bit, the fact that it’s on a grass pitch😂 Ours only ever worked in two wheel drive. I somehow bet that that is CCC.

I held out against the roof tent idea. I would have undoubtedly either broke my neck climbing out for a midnight pee......or walked in my sleep. Found doing so on a couple of occasions at home...🤣

kenexton replied on 02/01/2021 17:44

Posted on 02/01/2021 17:44

Some 20 years ago I witnessed a unit catch on fire and it is not something I want to experience again.It went up terrifyingly quickly and two of the occupants were so badly burned that they required skin grafts.Safety rules are in the name.I agree with everything that JK has said in regard to ensuring that all are kept safe on site and that all on site behave safely.32 years in the CMC this year and I have no problem with the R and R of the Club or with the Wardens' oversight of them.A little common sense goes a long way.

Takethedogalong replied on 02/01/2021 17:48

Posted on 02/01/2021 17:25 by JollyKernow

In 11 years working with the club I've only ever had a look in 3 vans (not inspect) in that time and only one of those was in my opinion unsafe with a camping gas stove balanced on the front seat and a sleeping bag on the floor. It's not just the fire risk but the equally dangerous risk of CO poisoning. To me how anyone wants to camp is entirely up to them but the club takes the safety of it's staff and customers seriously. I do find it strange that that duty of care can be construed as having an elitist attitude but hey. Take a look around a club site during the summer, just like any other site, elitist it definitely ain'twink

JK

Posted on 02/01/2021 17:48

It’s a lot different now to how it used to be JK, as are the nice Club Wardens, but we go back a whole lot further than that, and we did actually have a female Warden say to us “this Club doesn’t allow your sort of vehicle”. We were made to demonstrate how our pop roof worked, how the seats converted into a bed, was the two ring burner a proper hob? We were mid 20’s, it was the only vehicle we could afford at the time, and if I recall, our lovely well behaved Rottweiler was viewed with deep suspicion at the time.

Attitudes like this drove us away from the Club for a good few years, we enjoyed using nice private Sites. We re joined with a small caravan, and of course were welcomed without issues, other than the fact our van was, and invariably is, amongst the oldest on a Site. The curiosity value tends to be more on the part of other Members rather than Wardens nowadays. Maybe not elitist, but there is still “something” on some kinds of Club Sites. Some are definitely the realm of the big white box, carefully aligned, super clean, brand spanking new. Not a criticism, it’s just an observation. 

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