No Dustbins

From reading between the lines at some of the comments in this discussion I don't think our mobility issues are anywhere near as bad as some. However having such problems wasn't adding to the enjoyment we once had so we made the decision to call it a day. I didn't have any issue with routine tasks, albeit a bit slower than I once was! Perhaps we jumped before we were pushed, so to speak,  and could have gone on for longer but we came to the realisation that firstly because of numerous appointments we were not going to be able to use the van very much anyway. That coupled with the unproductive expense of keeping a motorhome the reluctant decision was made that our touring days were over. 

David

Surely if someone has a problem walking as far as to the entrance of a site, they are unlikley to be travelling on their own, so I doubt if it is going to affect huge numbers of people and those whom it does affect (or they can't lift the lid on the bin), could simply ask one of the staff to take their rubbish to the bins for them.

It seems to me that this is another example of poor comms from the Club. Firstly poor communication to ALL members about what was happening and why. Probably within that would be an explanation as to why the bins would be near the entrance rather than elsewhere. My best guess is that it is to do with lorries collecting the bins. Secondly the Club will have done an access/disability assessment and the adjustments required from that should be shared with members.

I am sure that even with good communication debate would still have ensued, but at least it would be with a factual basis rather than the guess work we have now.

You’d better ask them who have posted of their particular issues with the bins.

It doesn’t matter whether one person or 200 people are affected, there should be no bar to accessibility for anyone. Yes, people can ask site staff for help but the bins are not necessarily near the office where you might or might not find a warden so you could end up traipsing around looking for a warden who could be on his/her break, cleaning the toilets, cutting the grass…..

Does anyone remember that lovely brave lady with the assistance dog? She is confined to a wheelchair yet sometimes camps alone in her MH. I wonder how she copes with the big bins?

Hja

I agree with you. The Club does seem to sometimes have the attitude that we know what we want to do and decision made. The "Bin Saga" is a good example. Information has dribbled out but no major explanation as far as I can see. The Club seem to make decision without selling the benefits and there are benefits from the new system as well as a few issues. I suspect on most sites don't need much to change as to the position of the big bins as they have always been there. The major change is that bins dotted around the site have been removed. The benefits are that these is a big saving in not using bin liners and it saves site staff a considerable amount of time not having to empty bins. The downside is that some less able members are having difficulties with the new system. Now if all these points were addressed in a major communication to members with the reasoning behind the decision. Plus a commitment to look at any difficulties that might be experienced by less able members there would have been a far greater level of understanding?

David

When we were recently at Chatsworth the wardens had constructed a bin store which meant that the big bins could be propped open even when it was raining. I am not disabled, but I am not very tall, so previously if I had several items to put in the recycling bin, my hands were already full, so I could not lift the bin lid without putting all my recycling things on the ground. However, with the bin store I could put everything in because lids were propped open. 

Unfortunatley, unless recycling is made as easy as possible as number of people just won’t bother. If small bins were placed at the service points and were designated as only for recycling, we all know that some people will just get rid of anything there.

It must be a good idea to try to reduce the bin bags which go into landfill, but also to keep in mind that a lot of people “take the easy option” and just get rid of their rubbish anywhere.

Perhaps the answer would be for some sites where space permits, to have two recycling and rubbish points. If the wardens need to push the big bins to a location where the council can easily empty them, so be it. The wardens at Chatsworth seem to manage this.

I collect my recyclables in an old shopping bag for disposal at the recycling bins. On one site recently, I could not locate these bins and on asking a site manager where they were, I was advised they did not have any. They used to have them but so many people took no notice of them they now only have general refuse bins and the sorting is done by the local council after collection.

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