Small(ish) motorhome.

replied on 16/06/2019 21:34

Posted on 16/06/2019 21:34

Because of a change in family circumstances, we are considering swapping our caravan for a motorhome/campervan. (I'm not really sure what the difference is.). The campervan will have to be used occasionally for school runs/shopping so we need to keep it as compact as possible. I have been doing some research but am becoming bogged down with information. We have borrowed a VW camper for a couple of nights and, while it was great to drive round towns and to park, it's was really too small for us for holidays  

Ideally we would like a two berth van with four belted seats and a toilet cubicle - it doesn't need to be large as we always use site facilities for showers - bench seats that convert into a bed, and floor space for a dog. An Autocruise Accent has all of theses features, but looks quite big. Does anyone drive one in similar circumstances, or can anyone suggest another model that might fit the bill? I would like to be able to park in normal spaces if possible.

Am I simply being unreasonable in my expectations?

All replies/advice/information very gratefully received. 

QFour replied on 16/06/2019 22:40

Posted on 16/06/2019 22:40

We take our Laika round the Supermarket car parks when we are out and about. You just have to watch for overhanging trees etc. Sometimes you find a height barrier so you just stop somewhere else. The Laika is 7.5m it's just what you get used to.

DJAK replied on 16/06/2019 23:04

Posted on 16/06/2019 23:04

Have a look at the Swift Select range. I have a 184 - nice - if you are using for one/two, you can leave the rear bed made up and still have space to sit, etc.

cyberyacht replied on 17/06/2019 07:43

Posted on 17/06/2019 07:43

My Marquis Majestic 125 is 6M x 2.14M, has four belted seats, fixed bed, garage, loo and shower combined. Unless you go for a VW type, which you have found too small for serious holidaying, this is about as small as it gets. Given the congestion around the school gate, it is still going to be a bit unwieldy, although not impossible, doing the school run.

JVB66 replied on 17/06/2019 08:35

Posted on 17/06/2019 08:35

We were looking at a Devon Firefly conversion on site (very nice owners) based on the Ford transit panel van it has all you seem to be looking for,,it was also an automaticcool

 

young thomas replied on 17/06/2019 09:45

Posted on 17/06/2019 09:45

most Ducato based PVCs that have 4 belts tend to use a half dinette for the seating which means it's not easy to make beds from, so there is inevitibly a fixed bed...

to have seats that have belts but can be turned into a bed you're probaly looking at the VW sized van (or even the transit as mentioned above.

make up beds and seat belts don't normal.y come together.

Dreamer (Rapido) have a four (+) berth PVC with shower and roof bed which might work.

there are a couple of Merc or Crafter based vans which have belts but the typical rear lounge pull together style can't provide the belts you. need.

the VW type rock n roll bed faces forward and allows for seat belt but is a small unit.....nice to drive but too small for some to camp in.

its a dilema....which bit of the compromise is the most important?

driving/parking, four belts or touring comfort?

Takethedogalong replied on 17/06/2019 10:24

Posted on 17/06/2019 10:24

Does it have to be new? Some of the older VW monocoque models come in at 5.5 metres and are brilliant two berths. We know because we have got one. It all depends how “occasionally” the school run needs doing. Some models do have the extra belted seats, but you are giving up a lot for those occasionally used seats. We use our VW MH for some day to day journeys, but it still needs thought about the parking. Supermarkets and big car parks a doddle. Fighting it out at the school gates? Too precious to even consider.

Second hand comfort and usability, use the savings to get another vehicle second hand car to do the school run? 

dunelm replied on 17/06/2019 11:36

Posted on 17/06/2019 11:36

If you are Ok buying a van which is a few years old it may be worth looking at an Auto-Sleepers Symbol ES. 

The van is 5.75 metres long, including a rear step which could be removed if that extra length creates a problem. I think it is 5.4 metres long without the step. The ES version (no longer available new) has 4 seatbelts. The off side travel seat can be turned into a bench. The sleeping arrangements can be either a double or two singles. The dog could sleep in the space at the back between the fridge and the loo or between the single beds if you use that configuration.

We have had a Symbol ES for ten and a half years during which time it has been our only vehicle. Being a panel van conversion it is narrower than most (if not all) coach built vans. We have had few problems parking it (if there are no height barriers) especially if there is a parking space with an area behind for the slight overhang.

MalcMc replied on 17/06/2019 12:09

Posted on 17/06/2019 12:09

Hi we have a Rollerteam T590 as mentioned by Viatorem, after following many threads on subject, used advice and researched all, it suits us, 5.9m compact though all we need and more. Best advice was make a must have list and go look, Benimar, Swift, quite a few makes have them, good luck.

young thomas replied on 17/06/2019 14:42

Posted on 17/06/2019 12:09 by MalcMc

Hi we have a Rollerteam T590 as mentioned by Viatorem, after following many threads on subject, used advice and researched all, it suits us, 5.9m compact though all we need and more. Best advice was make a must have list and go look, Benimar, Swift, quite a few makes have them, good luck.

Posted on 17/06/2019 14:42

the A class version called the Pegaso is (IMV) even better than this little belter....

why?

becaus the drop down bed is over the (wider) cab and not the lounge so that the lounge can be used at the same time as the bed is deployed.

A class leading van in many magazine polls.....

the half dinette has two extra belts, large lounge for dog (if reqd) and decent storage.....a terrific little an at a great price, might even get a pre reg one at a good discount.

https://www.rollerteammotorhomes.co.uk/range/pegaso/590

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