February Magazine - Nick Lomas EVs

RollerMan181 replied on 29/01/2021 12:55

Posted on 29/01/2021 12:55

I started to read the Nick Lomas' article published in this month’s magazine regarding the transition towards electric vehicles with scepticism at first. Having owned two electric vehicles for over 4 years, I have seen so much biased reporting by ill informed journalists or in journals with “other” agendas that are clearly out to recredit EVs, that I thought here we go again.

So it started off well, then I got to the bombshell. The article states that running costs are lower and implies that, this will go a long way to offset the initial costs of purchase.  Very true, in my case, the cost of the lease and low charging costs mean that I can run an EV for much less than that of a comparable petrol or diesel car. Then he states that it costs £20 to charge “at home”!  Where on earth did he get that figure from? Well done he just may have alienated thousands of potential people thinking about converting to an EV.

Please find below the true cost of charging at home on an Economy 7 tariff

KIA SOUL EV (30KWh battery). To charge from 50% to 100%  will give a total range of 130 miles in summer, 100 miles in winter)

DAY RATE £2.47 plus vat @5%

NIGHT RATE £1.59 plus vat @5%

The latest KIA SOUL EV, (64KWh battery) for comparison will do more than twice the range, so to charge from 50% to 100% :-

DAY RATE £5.28 plus vat @5%

NIGHT RATE £2.97 plus vat @5%

I have Economy 7 tariff and additionally I have solar panels, so when the sun is shining, any excess electricity goes in to my car. So I can charge for free sometimes. Even at Public chargers that charge 30p per KW, I’ve never got anywhere near paying £20. Last year I did 10k miles for less than £300.

So to allow people to make informed decisions,  could you please add a correction in next month's magazine.

 David Bell

Moved from the Story Section

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 19/02/2021 09:07

Posted on 19/02/2021 08:55 by brue

Very few of us have immediate access to conventional fuel so it's unlikely that access to a charge will be a major problem.

JLR are committing to electric across their range along with other manufacturers. There is a massive battery plant being developed on the edge of Coventry (other similar developments too.) The infrastructure is going in for the future.

Posted on 19/02/2021 09:07

Brue, you embraced the technology & have proved the place for it is here & now. I too will be following suit when I no longer need a work horse of a vehicle. Some folk look at the future with jaundiced eyes & refuse to accept change. It is however coming. There are Trucks already in the pipeline👍🏻

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Posted on 19/02/2021 09:11

Very few of us have immediate access to conventional fuel so it's unlikely that access to a charge will be a major problem.

Eventually that might be true. At present it is not

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Posted on 19/02/2021 09:07 by Rocky 2 buckets

Brue, you embraced the technology & have proved the place for it is here & now. I too will be following suit when I no longer need a work horse of a vehicle. Some folk look at the future with jaundiced eyes & refuse to accept change. It is however coming. There are Trucks already in the pipeline👍🏻

Posted on 19/02/2021 09:15

At the present time EVs are unable to meet my personal requirements. A main reason is that there are little available charging locations in my area.

brue replied on 19/02/2021 09:18

Posted on 19/02/2021 09:18

I was talking about the future, at present EV ownership is limited by general viability and costs. Even if everyone had charging access I doubt that EVs would be the purchase choice at the moment. 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 19/02/2021 09:19

Posted on 19/02/2021 09:09 by

I would like to ,think I was still around in 14 years time to be wanting to drag a big white box around which I almost certainly wouldnt be allowed tosurprised. Strange world this is now when the old dont envy the young,

Posted on 19/02/2021 09:19

This old very much envies the young, I’d love to be around in 50 years time the technological landscape will be amazing. You will be allowed to drag your white box around. The ICE vehicles are not being outlawed to use in 14 years time but will no longer be available to buy. What we drive now will be the classic cars of the future👍🏻

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 19/02/2021 09:24

Posted on 19/02/2021 09:15 by

At the present time EVs are unable to meet my personal requirements. A main reason is that there are little available charging locations in my area.

Posted on 19/02/2021 09:24

ET, it is your choice👍🏻. It isn’t about right or wrong it’s about choice. I love the idea of EV’s but right now they too are not for me. I support the move away from the ICE wholeheartedly. One thing is guaranteed-it’s coming, the death of the ICE vehicle is unstoppable just like the ICE replaced the Horse in the early 20th century.

Cornersteady replied on 19/02/2021 09:46

Posted on 19/02/2021 09:46

Certainly my next car will be hybrid, with about 30 miles plus on one charge and which will do for the daily/weekly run-around but petrol still there for longer journeys. Thee are EV out there now claiming 80 miles plus on one charge.

I can certainly install a charging unit on my house and for those that can't I would think that petrol stations will become power/charging stations. Technology will move forward so quick easy charging will take the same time as it does now? 

Just changed my mobile a while back, it has a new USB (3 is it) socket and the higher power charger it came with charges it up to 100% in less than an hour. On the old one it took a few hours. Also the battery is more powerful for the same space and far longer. Just one example of what can be done.

JVB66 replied on 19/02/2021 09:49

Posted on 19/02/2021 09:49

It is not the availability of EVs that is the problem as many  companies are developing models, although some, when tested in the real world  independent  tests did not live up to the manufacturers marketing depts miles per charge?

It is the lack of infrastructure that is the problem  it seems as noted in last nights TV programme ,that LAs when questioned have far more important things to cope with on. their finances ,  even with the  gov grants that could go some way help with the set up of charging points 

As posted before,  the costs of getting really viable infrastructure would make what the pandemic has cost  so far,  be minor

And as the emails that both cyber and I received yesterday , apart from the criminal side , seems with other parts ,a way of road pricing that could overcome   more costly methods ,

HMG will very soon be introducing other methods of getting  more from motorists to fill the Black hole left from lack of vat and fuel duty , the treasury must be rubbing their hands even now as the cost of oil goes higher 

But it is far easier   to spend five minutes to fill  an ICE vehicle that will probably do at least 400miles solo  before  the next five minute  stop or not much longer if pumps are busy, that at least on a very High  charge rate 15 minutes for an EV to travel 200miles then another 15minute min wait if points are busy

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