Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act, 1960

BirchHillFarmCL replied on 08/09/2019 19:06

Posted on 08/09/2019 19:06

Although the CAMC may have 'gold plated' some aspects of the 1960 Act, the 5-van part of it is a key aspect that cannot be changed without reviewing the whole Act.

That simply isn't going to happen - it is too big a piece of legislation, with too many interested parties, including Club-owned sites, CLs, ralliers, and more significantly, the trade organisations of static caravan sites, such as the British Holiday & Home Parks Association.

Clubs such as the CAMC and C&CC have too much to lose if a review of the Act goes in the wrong direction.

The other factor if trying to change the Act is that the government has different priorities at present, so anyone trying to change the 1960 Act would just be wasting their time.

The 5-van limit was a concession to landowners to avoid the need for small sites to go through the full process of Planning Permission.  Landowners (and Club members) should see this as a benefit, rather than an imposition.

If CL Owners want more than 5 vans on their land, they then need to go via the Planning Permission process and be licenced by their local council. This is costly and the site owner would also be responsible for their own advertising. The CAMC website and Sites Directory are easier and cheaper ways for landowners to promote small caravan sites.

'No Tents' is a CAMC rule, rather than the law, but if CL owners want to stay with the CAMC, they need to play by Club rules.

  • The C&CC and Freedom Camping Club allow tents under the 1960 Act, but those are much smaller organisations, with fewer members as potential guests. The CAMC is the 'brand leader'.
  • The C&CC charges landowners £165 + VAT every 2 years to operate CSs (equivalent to CLs). It does not allow CS Owners to advertise their CSs outside the main C&CC website and C&CC Sites Handbook, i.e. no personal websites, and no FaceBook pages to promote the CS.  (The CAMC simply asks that new CL Owners pay the same membership fee as other Club members.)

If CL Owners break the law, by over-booking, allowing tents or having non-recreational guests (e.g. workers or residents), they are putting the interests of Club members and the businesses of other CL Owners at risk in 2 ways:

  • The CAMC could lose its status of being allowed to issue operating Certificates to CLs.
  • If a neighbouring CL is struggling with lack of bookings, a CL Owner that overbooks is potentially damaging their neighbour’s income stream.

By recommending neighbouring CLs, it helps a CL Owner’s local economy; the neighbour might return the favour; and our experience is that the people we turned-away will probably pop-in to see what they've missed, and often book us for their next holiday.

Ian Kelly
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Birch Hill, The Cross, Ellesmere, Shropshire, SY12 0LP
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Vulcan replied on 11/09/2019 13:40

Posted on 11/09/2019 13:02 by papgeno

I'm sorry but you're wrong. It is the Act itself that sets out that only members of the main caravanning organisations can use CLs and CSs, 

Incidentally way back when this piece of legislation was enacted it replaced a section in one of the Public Health Acts. So although it may now be used as a planning process its genesis was as a piece of public health legislation .

Posted on 11/09/2019 13:40

Approved sites exemption
This is known as a paragraph 5 exemption.
With this exemption, your organisation can select sites for its members to stay on, by issuing certificates to the landowner or occupier. These certificates are valid for up to one year.
Non-members are allowed to stay on the site if your club and the landowner agree to it.

peedee replied on 11/09/2019 14:12

Posted on 11/09/2019 14:12

Indeed Vulcan, I have just checked for updates to the guidence notes on gov.uk and the latest notes clearly state this.

quote

"Approved sites exemption
This is known as a paragraph 5 exemption.

With this exemption, your organisation can select sites for its members to stay on, by issuing certificates to the landowner or occupier. These certificates are valid for up to one year.

Non-members are allowed to stay on the site if your club and the landowner agree to it.

You’ll need to:

set a maximum limit of 5 caravans at a time for each site
have a system for consulting neighbours and the local licensing authority (Natural England, or the Scottish or Welsh governments) before issuing a certificate
have a system for inspecting the sites and dealing with complaints from the public"

unquote

peedee

papgeno replied on 11/09/2019 16:33

Posted on 11/09/2019 16:33

There must have been an amendment to the original Act because the Act originally had the membership issue as one of the conditions of exemption.

I bow to your more recent knowledge.

JVB66 replied on 11/09/2019 16:46

Posted on 11/09/2019 16:33 by papgeno

There must have been an amendment to the original Act because the Act originally had the membership issue as one of the conditions of exemption.

I bow to your more recent knowledge.

Posted on 11/09/2019 16:46

I think it was worded that way ,but then as it says the club AND landowners ageement so both must agree,   but then most clubs would want to protect their memberships concession by not agreeing to non members being admitted,

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