CL Site Owners' Website

CholseyGrange replied on 14/01/2021 15:48

Posted on 14/01/2021 15:48

If you are a keen supporter of the CL network you might like to know that there's a dedicated support group for CL owners where they share best practice, information and encourage other landowners to set up new CLs. 

The group liaises with the Club on a regular basis, but like the CLs themeselves, it is entirely independent. The group receives no financial support or direction from the Club.The group was formed in 2014 and now has over 600 members.  Find out more on our website

How you can help: If you are visiting a CL and think they could benefit from advice or support from fellow CL owners, please point them in the direction of the group.  Likewise, if you know someone with a great spot for a new CL, the Owners Group website is a complementary source of information to the Clubs own guide for setting up a CL.

The group is entirely run by volunteers (all CL owners), is free to join and welcomes feedback from CAMC members, especially those with knowledge of the CL network!

JVB66 replied on 15/01/2021 14:42

Posted on 15/01/2021 14:34 by Tinwheeler

I think you might have misunderstood, JV. Ted is talking about those members who legitimately stop on CLs for one night, not intruders.

Posted on 15/01/2021 14:42

,One night on a non facility CL/CS is quite a cheap way of "servicing" a motor caravan when they probably "wild camp?" at other timesundecided

Takethedogalong replied on 15/01/2021 14:54

Posted on 15/01/2021 14:54

JV, don’t forget to add the cost of membership. I doubt anyone who is looking to tour on the very cheap (ie mainly wild camping) is thick enough to pay out for Club Membership, which is the only way you can access a CL.

Not everyone who uses a motorhome wild camps. Others like us are perfectly happy staying on nice small sites and paying a reasonable amount to do so. It’s the main reason for being Members.

JVB66 replied on 15/01/2021 15:08

Posted on 15/01/2021 14:54 by Takethedogalong

JV, don’t forget to add the cost of membership. I doubt anyone who is looking to tour on the very cheap (ie mainly wild camping) is thick enough to pay out for Club Membership, which is the only way you can access a CL.

Not everyone who uses a motorhome wild camps. Others like us are perfectly happy staying on nice small sites and paying a reasonable amount to do so. It’s the main reason for being Members.

Posted on 15/01/2021 15:08

And how many come on CT and Advise that Cls do not check membership cards undecided

And at about one pound a week membership is very cheapwink

eurortraveller replied on 15/01/2021 15:12

Posted on 15/01/2021 15:12

I commend the attempt to support other CL owners - though the whole concept of CLs seems well out of date to me. I understand how CLs started 60 or70 years ago, but have never understood how this old fashioned, slightly snobbish idea is still with us in this 21st century inclusive, diverse, democratic age. 

We ourselves have a long family history with different family members in the hospitality business - various relatives have run three or four pubs, a couple of wine bars, several restaurants, a cousin who had a chain of fish and chip shops, another with a travel agency, and one of my in laws who started from scratch and was awarded Best Guest House in Wales.

All of them took money from all and sundry and some became rich. But all of them would have laughed at the idea of running a caravan site which turned away "non members" and rejected young families with tents, appeared to have a bit of a prejudice against motorhomers, especially those who only wanted to stay one night, didn't serve food and drinks, and voluntarily put on a "five only" straitjacket. Business madness they would all have said - broaden your customer base. 

So good luck to those trying to perpetuate the CL idea. But it seems a loser to me. 

 

Takethedogalong replied on 15/01/2021 15:15

Posted on 15/01/2021 15:15

JV, I don’t know. Possibly similar to those who don’t use CLs, but love to offer anecdotal unhelpful suggestions and heresay to those who do?🤔

Suggest we both leave it there in polite deference to Ted’s useful thread?

Takethedogalong replied on 15/01/2021 15:39

Posted on 15/01/2021 15:12 by eurortraveller

I commend the attempt to support other CL owners - though the whole concept of CLs seems well out of date to me. I understand how CLs started 60 or70 years ago, but have never understood how this old fashioned, slightly snobbish idea is still with us in this 21st century inclusive, diverse, democratic age. 

We ourselves have a long family history with different family members in the hospitality business - various relatives have run three or four pubs, a couple of wine bars, several restaurants, a cousin who had a chain of fish and chip shops, another with a travel agency, and one of my in laws who started from scratch and was awarded Best Guest House in Wales.

All of them took money from all and sundry and some became rich. But all of them would have laughed at the idea of running a caravan site which turned away "non members" and rejected young families with tents, appeared to have a bit of a prejudice against motorhomers, especially those who only wanted to stay one night, didn't serve food and drinks, and voluntarily put on a "five only" straitjacket. Business madness they would all have said - broaden your customer base. 

So good luck to those trying to perpetuate the CL idea. But it seems a loser to me. 

 

Posted on 15/01/2021 15:39

We loved CLs from the very start of membership over 30 years ago. Back then they were a cheap, safe option of somewhere to stay, in an area you liked, with an outfit you had bought to do just that. Some were on farms, a bit of diversity to bring in some much needed income. Some were the orchards, gardens of lovely big houses, where the owners liked to welcome folks in the tradition of a bed and breakfast stay. Some were like minded touring folks who gave something back to a hobby they enjoyed themselves. Some wanted to keep things small and manageable, rather than going large site.

Most of our best holiday memories have come from CLs, their diversity, their simplicity, the relative freedom to just enjoy a little bit of someone else’s livelihood, be it a farm or similar, or a very beautiful garden. You rolled in, you picked a spot, you said hello. Next to nothing commercial, little fuss, as much interaction with your hosts as either you or they desired. Such CLs are still out there, some are now into the second and third generation of ownership, happily still remaining true to the original concept. 
New CL owners, and more and more CL users, have different ideas on provision, there’s more hoops to jump through in terms of providing, more to meeting expectations of those moving into CL usage. It’s not easy trying to balance the two. With luck, they might be around long enough to see out the rest of our touring days😁

JVB66 replied on 15/01/2021 17:03

Posted on 15/01/2021 15:15 by Takethedogalong

JV, I don’t know. Possibly similar to those who don’t use CLs, but love to offer anecdotal unhelpful suggestions and heresay to those who do?🤔

Suggest we both leave it there in polite deference to Ted’s useful thread?

Posted on 15/01/2021 17:03

Do you not use CLs we have used two in the last 3 years, in Cornwall and Suffolk surprised

nelliethehooker replied on 15/01/2021 20:42

Posted on 15/01/2021 17:03 by JVB66

Do you not use CLs we have used two in the last 3 years, in Cornwall and Suffolk surprised

Posted on 15/01/2021 20:42

Goodness, as many as that!! We used just 26 last year, well below the number we usually use, so are in a position to agree completely with what Tda posted. I can honestly say that over the years we've used CL's that we have seen very few of the "Dump, fill, run" brigade.

Cornersteady replied on 15/01/2021 20:54

Posted on 15/01/2021 20:54

During the war...

The Home Guard or Local defence Volunteers (as they were first known) had the initials LDV, which people said stood for:

Look Duck and Vanish.

perhaps that could be used instead? 

JVB66 replied on 15/01/2021 21:22

Posted on 15/01/2021 20:42 by nelliethehooker

Goodness, as many as that!! We used just 26 last year, well below the number we usually use, so are in a position to agree completely with what Tda posted. I can honestly say that over the years we've used CL's that we have seen very few of the "Dump, fill, run" brigade.

Posted on 15/01/2021 21:22

Both we have used have made us more  than appreciate cc sitessurprisedwink

Some years ago we stopped at one near Doncaster (a pub) on route to the Trax site at Hexham and were not allowed to park on the CL? so were put on some ground that was more like a cinder area bonfithat looked like it was used for bonfiresundecided 

And another near Bolton Abb ey where the owner wanted us off by 1900 as he had a rally coming in and wanted to cut the grass ,which he started to do at 0530 at first lightundecided

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