Servicing calls at CLs for Motorcaravans

"The negative attitude on this forum to anything other than full facility sites is quite breathtaking"

I thought you had read the closed thread, BM. You will see in there that your statement is far from true. You're way off beam there. However, there is a world of difference between negativity and realism and I think your desire for change may be blinding you to the practicalities of the issue.

People here, myself included, have attempted to point you in a direction where you might achieve your aims, ie the CL Owners Group who I think are on FB as well, but you seem to want to bypass them. Where else you turn, goodness only knows so I urge you to make an approach if you seriously want to bring this about but you need to make a case to support your claims and desires. Just saying "it’s a good idea and we want..." isn’t going to cut it.

As you and I have both said, aire type facilities are beginning to appear in Scotland so I guess a little more patience is needed.

 

Has it not come to your notice ,the main reason it seems when reading posts on here,   that the expectation of those who in recent years (not when we started) cannot do without all the mod cons that come with LVs that are on the market    ,hence the reason that the CL/CS network is playing catch up , with installing what the modern user is expecting ,  even wanting harstanding serviced pitches as posted so many times on here with both clubs ,and as for not having the "basics of toilets and showers" 

I have read the other day ,that because of the problems being caused by the over use of the NC 500, according to locals ,there is quite substantial  investment by several organisations to help alleviate some of the illegal parking in some areas

 

Basic CLs seem to be disappearing, presumably due to lack of use by CMC members.

Is that true? 

I suspect that it may well hold some truth. I joined the club in 1970 (first with a trailer tent then caravan). Up until 1995 I used a number of CLs. Then I fitted electrics but used sites with and without EHU. In 2005 I bought a new caravan and from that time wanted EHU and generally preferred a hard standing. Any CL that I have used since had that facility. That had become  a prerequisite for us. 

Now CLs seem to be mini sites with EHU, toilets, showers and prices to match. Not everyone wants the all singing all dancing sites which cost a fortune to set up and maintain,

I have been on similar sites and paid £20 a night which has suited me. 

How would the 5 van limit work? Would “just visiting” motor homes be counted? Would there be a limit on the time they could stay?

 

What about security and disruption for those staying on site, could someone turn up late at night, early morning, does the owner have to be on hand to take payments? Lots of questions need to be asked.

Sensible suggestions addressing those and other issues should form part of the case put to CL owners and could make a big difference to the outcome. The CL owners need to be convinced that it would enhance their businesses rather than being a millstone around their necks.

I’m quite sure that where there is a genuine will there could also be a way to bring CL owners / operators and motorhomers together in a safe and mutually convenient way to enable one to provide the service and the other to receive the service and for both to benefit from it without inconvenience to others. 

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The basic CLs in this area, which I used when I had a caravan, seem  have all disappeared.  In fact there are very few CLs here.  (Southern Scotland)

When a CL owner has to put in EHUs, toilets and showers that is costly and when they only have 5 pitches they have to charge a realistic rate to recoup the amount laid out. 

All CLs have Elsan disposal points, taps and a means of disposing of grey waste.  If they allowed passing Motorhomers to come in and use the facilities already provided it would mean that the CL owner could recoup the cost over a shorter period of time.  They would not then need to increase the pitch fee so often.  All members would benefit as the people who wished to stay on CLs would see the benefit.

Not all CLs will be able to offer service stops, but if a few do, especially in areas such as Wales, the Peak district and others where there was pressure on facilities last summer it might make the general public less censorious of touring caravanners, who all get tarred with the dirty camping brush.