EHIC 'Replacement' part of 'The Deal'

ValDa replied on 27/12/2020 13:26

Posted on 27/12/2020 13:26

Details Here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/agreements-reached-between-the-united-kingdom-of-great-britain-and-northern-ireland-and-the-european-union/summary-explainer?fbclid=IwAR1U-ee2Kxq65rV537isGpnQncbB2bkZa8B6Uuaxzw-HMb-xERS990IuoOc#trade-and-cooperation-agreement-overview

Title I - Social Security Coordination
113. The provisions in the Protocol on Social Security Coordination will ensure that individuals who move between the UK and the EU in the future will have their social security position in respect of certain important benefits protected. Individuals will be able to have access to a range of social security benefits, including reciprocal healthcare cover and an uprated state pension.

114. This Protocol supports business and trade by ensuring that cross- border workers and their employers are only liable to pay social security contributions in one state at a time. Generally, this will be in the country where work is undertaken, irrespective of whether the worker resides within the EU or the UK, or indeed whether the employer is based in the EU or the UK.

115. UK workers who are sent by their employer to work temporarily in an EU Member State which has agreed to apply the “detached worker” rules will remain liable to only pay social security contributions in the UK for the period of work in that EU Member State. Similarly, if an EU worker is sent by their employer to work temporarily in the UK from a Member State which has agreed to apply the “detached worker” rules, they will remain liable to only pay contributions in that EU Member State.

116. Under the Protocol, the UK and EU Member States will be able to take into account relevant contributions paid into each other’s social security systems, or relevant periods of work or residence, by individuals for determining entitlement to a state pension and to a range of benefits. This will provide a good level of protection for people working in the UK and EU Member States. The Protocol also provides for the uprating of the UK State Pension paid to pensioners who retire to the EU.

117. On healthcare, where the UK or an EU Member State is responsible for the healthcare of an individual, they will be entitled to reciprocal healthcare cover. This includes certain categories of cross-border workers and state pensioners who retire to the UK or to the EU.

118. In addition, the Protocol will ensure necessary healthcare provisions – akin to those provided by the European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) scheme – continue. This means individuals who are temporarily staying in another country, for example a UK national who is in an EU Member State for a holiday, will have their necessary healthcare needs met for the period of their stay.

119. The Protocol also protects the ability of individuals to seek authorisation to receive planned medical treatment in the UK or the EU, funded by their responsible State.

My take on this: If you have a current EHIC you should keep it until advised how to obtain a replacement.

SeasideBill replied on 27/12/2020 13:50

Posted on 27/12/2020 13:50

Interesting reference (future tense?) to ‘state pensioners who retire to the EU’. Apart from special arrangements like the Spanish & Portuguese Golden Visa, I assumed that would no longer be an option beyond the 90/180 day arrangement - retirement would suggest something more permanent than that?

Wherenext replied on 27/12/2020 14:01

Posted on 27/12/2020 14:01

There is reference to the EHIC being replaced by a UK Health Card but you can continue to use the EHIC until it's expiry date and obviously until they have introduced said new card.

Not sure what the procedure is for those travellers whose EHIC expires soon and before  a new card can be introduced.

LLM replied on 27/12/2020 14:03

Posted on 27/12/2020 14:03

My take on this: If you have a current EHIC you should keep it until advised how to obtain a replacement.

Correct.  Elsewhere the UK Gov has advised that your extant EHIC will remain valid until it is due to expire at which point one can apply for the  newly agreed replacement.   

This was always going to happen as EU countries and their health services have benefitted considerably more from the EHIC system than the UK.  

peedee replied on 27/12/2020 15:22

Posted on 27/12/2020 15:22

I never solely relied on the EHIC card anyway. I have always taken out additional travel insurance, so as far as I am concerned there will be no change.

peedee

LLM replied on 27/12/2020 15:24

Posted on 27/12/2020 15:22 by peedee

I never solely relied on the EHIC card anyway. I have always taken out additional travel insurance, so as far as I am concerned there will be no change.

peedee

Posted on 27/12/2020 15:24

Very wise.  

replied on 27/12/2020 16:10

Posted on 27/12/2020 15:22 by peedee

I never solely relied on the EHIC card anyway. I have always taken out additional travel insurance, so as far as I am concerned there will be no change.

peedee

Posted on 27/12/2020 16:10

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Philnffc replied on 27/12/2020 16:27

Posted on 27/12/2020 13:50 by SeasideBill

Interesting reference (future tense?) to ‘state pensioners who retire to the EU’. Apart from special arrangements like the Spanish & Portuguese Golden Visa, I assumed that would no longer be an option beyond the 90/180 day arrangement - retirement would suggest something more permanent than that?

Posted on 27/12/2020 16:27

Hi

About a two months ago in the El Pais newspaper PM Sanchez stated that if there was a deal Spain would offer Brits a six month visa to mainly cover people with second homes here  but the same would apply for overwinterers.too.

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

 

 

brue replied on 27/12/2020 17:01

Posted on 27/12/2020 14:01 by Wherenext

There is reference to the EHIC being replaced by a UK Health Card but you can continue to use the EHIC until it's expiry date and obviously until they have introduced said new card.

Not sure what the procedure is for those travellers whose EHIC expires soon and before  a new card can be introduced.

Posted on 27/12/2020 17:01

It looks as though a provisional card will be available. See various details on this gov.uk LINK

JollyKernow replied on 27/12/2020 17:32

Posted on 27/12/2020 16:27 by Philnffc

Hi

About a two months ago in the El Pais newspaper PM Sanchez stated that if there was a deal Spain would offer Brits a six month visa to mainly cover people with second homes here  but the same would apply for overwinterers.too.

 

Phil

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted on 27/12/2020 17:32

Hi Phil

I guess there's a good few of us that have lots of fingers crossed!!

JK

SeasideBill replied on 27/12/2020 17:38

Posted on 27/12/2020 17:32 by JollyKernow

Hi Phil

I guess there's a good few of us that have lots of fingers crossed!!

JK

Posted on 27/12/2020 17:38

Yes, great news, I’ll keep an eye open for that development. If Spain went down that road Portugal would likely do the same. 

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