Ability to chose hardstanding pitches on all sites

AandJ replied on 08/09/2021 17:47

Posted on 08/09/2021 17:47

I want the club to look at giving members the option to chose hard standing or grass pitch on the sites where standard pitches can be either or. 
This season I have experienced problems on a few popular sites whereby I’ve booked a standard pitch with awning only to turn up (at a reasonable time 2-3pm) to find there are only grass pitches left. With a 4.5 tonne Motorhome this makes me Cringe. With all the rain we’ve had grass pitches have been really soft and twice we’ve had to get off using mud runners. 
I’ve also seen many other Motorhome sand larger caravans struggling to stop wheels sinking in or awning being like mud pools. There have been several reviews around on some of these sites were members have stated they’ve booked a std pitch with awning expecting hardstanding, as on sites that are all hardstanding, only to turn up to be told only grass left and these have been very wet and several not fit for purpose. 
The sites that I experienced problems with and heard from other members that have major issues are, Tewkesbury, Hurn Lane, Seacroft, Hill Head and Gowerton. There are probably others. 
I know some people like grass and that’s fine, but if that’s the case let them book them and let those of us who literally hate them cos they are not suitable for modern caravans or Motorhome chose hard standing. 
I don’t even mind paying a bit more for hard standing but I do object to paying the same for a poor quality, inferior, soggy under sized grass pitch ( lots of these at Tewkesbury and Hurn Lane ) . It should be personal choice so give us that choice and I think you might find there’s a drop in bookings at these sites, perhaps that’s why you don’t put in in the information options. 
Of course the best option would be to do away with soggy grass pitches and make them hard standing or at least increase the proportion of hard standing . So come on CAMC give us the option on all sites so that we’re all getting the same value for our money and not getting Stuck in the Mud which is we’re the club seems to be .

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 09/09/2021 09:22

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:15 by MikeyA

During the summer months I much prefer to be walking around in bare feet.

 

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:22

Touch the sole of your feet to the soul of Mother Nature.

replied on 09/09/2021 09:27

Posted on 08/09/2021 21:13 by obbernockle

I think it would be a good idea for members to choose what they want when booking. This would mean those of us towing caravans and preferring a hard standing would also be able to book one if there is availability.  The existing practice on some sites of site managers reserving pitches exclusively for campervans would presumably cease, and we would revert to the original "first come, first served" procedure. This would make the booking procedure "inclusive".

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:27

Many and probably most, would book hardstanding and perhaps some of these would change for grass on arrival. If I only had the option of grass left when booking a tour site I would choose an alternative site. 

JVB66 replied on 09/09/2021 09:28

Posted on 08/09/2021 21:25 by AandJ

Last time we were at Hurn Lane in May at least six Motorhomes trying to leave including us were all stuck in soft grass and needed runners to get us off 

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:28

May this year was the wettest month on record ,which when using as an example for apart from not being equipped for the vagaries of the worlds weather now let alone the uk . is not doing your case for special treatment for motor caravans by saving hardstands for them if booked on a site much goodundecided

Cornersteady replied on 09/09/2021 09:30

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:05 by EmilysDad

OK .... there is the possibility that the peg might be able to be moved. Maybe take a pitch out of use to enable the other pitches to be juggled about a bit. 

Why? Because as above, some people have no common sense & will sit spinning wheels when it's obvious the vehicle ain't going to move. see also some drivers of RWD cars in the snow

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:30

Any pitch out of use will be lost income and how long does it take for a pitch to recover? Much easier to have HS as that won't need to happen and no lost income and all round year use.

Regarding what causes it I don't think it's mostly due to wheel spin at all but as Steve was saying, and I've seen, is the effects of having a dead grass area due to multiple awnings on the same spot for the whole summer. Again HS won't be affected.

I think as the demand for more year round touring increases more HS will be needed.

 

 

replied on 09/09/2021 09:40

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:28 by JVB66

May this year was the wettest month on record ,which when using as an example for apart from not being equipped for the vagaries of the worlds weather now let alone the uk . is not doing your case for special treatment for motor caravans by saving hardstands for them if booked on a site much goodundecided

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:40

The English school holiday which is peak demand, is certainly wettest time of the year

young thomas replied on 09/09/2021 09:43

Posted on 09/09/2021 08:47 by cyberyacht

I spend a fair bit of time on CLs, most of which are grass. I deploy 'track mats' as a matter of course as I find that after a few days the wheels sink in to some degree whatever the weather. I haven't had to call out the cavalry 'yet'. Like the majority of motorhomes, ramps are often required under the front wheels and these give you a 'rolling start' to get off any pitch.

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:43

Thats my MO too, CY....even in the 'dry' on grass ill usually have the front wheels on the ramps, even just a bit...spreads the load.

we use plenty of CLs as well and im happy to chat to an owner re the ground conditions if things are a bit dodgy..

we tour all year and its the period from our return from Europe, say end October till Christmas when we might encounter tricky times, along with our usual New Year trip....this year we are on HS on a commercial.

If the club is to allow pitch type selection, it has to be sure it can offer a suitable product to all customers...its no good selling grass pitches to those that prefer them on sites that clearly cant support winter MH traffic.

in this case, it would need advance planning to withdraw grass pitches from sale from a specific date (would vary on each site base on warden local knowledge) so that customers dont arrive to unsuitable pitches.

of course, with a lovely late autumn, this might see grass pitches still in great condition....so, open a few? Or take the hit to avoid unhappy customers.

 

AandJ replied on 09/09/2021 09:47

Posted on 09/09/2021 08:41 by

I have absolutely no desire to help out anybody by taking an unsuitable grass pitch. I was asked to use a grass pitch at Shawsmead near Aberaeron. I inspected the area and reversed onto an adjacent hard standing instead. I accidently put a front wheel onto the grass whilst turning and left a 4'' deep rut. There had been heavy rain for days and I would have been happier to be cancelled the previous day rather than use such a grass area.

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:47

I fully support you, I don’t expect pitches to be reserved by wardens for either motorhomes or caravans, but like you Id rather not go than get stuck, so now i  don’t book these sites where there’s no choice option, unless I can get a Full service pitch which are hard standing. I like choosing a pitch when I get there but think we should all have the option to book the correct surface for our needs. Full democratic choice and equality for caravans or motorhomes. 

JVB66 replied on 09/09/2021 09:50

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:50

When we were at Top Lodge a few years ago a Motor caravan arrival was told by the site warden Not to go to the bottom left of the site as ithe ground was soft ,when they got stuck because they ignored the instruction, they strarted chucking their toys out the pram when the warden said they would have to get a brakedown service to get them out.,as they did not belong to one,

It took a Land Rover of a member on site plus four of us pushing to get them on to firm ground and it was stiil not their fault they got stuck as the warden should have taped off the area,? 

Takethedogalong replied on 09/09/2021 09:57

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:57

We are an island this morning. I might have a look around Site, see who has a decent 4x4 with them, failing that, Staff might have to let us stay longer until ground dries out........😎 

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