Awning and non-awning pitches

Chris102 replied on 12/07/2019 09:12

Posted on 12/07/2019 09:12

When will the C&MC policy makers do something about the pricing structure for these types of pitches?

I am on a site at present on a non-awning pitch because I could not book an awning one. I wanted to erect a Outdoor Revolution Tech Canopy and was told by the warden that I could not because I of the pitch type that I was on, even though there was plenty of room to do so. On some other sites I have been told that providing there is no front enclosure on the canopy then I can erect it.

There are many units on this site, caravans and motorhome, occupying awning pitches that do not have an awning erected. They are occupying a awning pitch because they want the extra space for sitting out etc and who can blame them. Why pay the same price for a smaller pitch.

If the price of a non-awning pitch was £3 or £4 pounds per night less than an awning pitch then maybe those that do not intend to erect an awning or canopy will book a non-awning pitch.

 

JollyKernow replied on 12/07/2019 18:52

Posted on 12/07/2019 17:04 by JVB66

Some years ago it was £1000 or more if the ground needed a lot of work to get it as level as the area permitted

Posted on 12/07/2019 18:52

Evening

I think you'll find that present day prices are slightly more than that JV. Try more in the line of 3k for a basic hardstanding if there's already a tarmac road. If there's not you can add on £80 per meter to get to it. That was 2017 prices.  Don't know the cost of planning but I know it's a contributing factor when deciding where and when to put hardstands in.

Grass any day for mecool

JK

Cornersteady replied on 12/07/2019 19:13

Posted on 12/07/2019 19:13

interesting, so say a site is open for 8 months (March - October) that is at say £25 per night per pitch income averaged out (?), that's a possible rough figure of £6000 income, now if it's a grass pitch then maybe it is out of use for 4 months? that means a loss of £3000 pounds, turn it into a HS and you can use it all year and it sort of pays for itself in one year, and makes more income the following year.

Yes I know these are rough figures and maybe you won't fill every pitch all the time (well some sites manage it though) and the average price per night might be wrong but you can scale it over two years or even have the site open all year/longer, but it gives you an idea of why HS are so attractive to the club?

Yes by all means charge for a HS over grass, won't worry me on a number of levelssmile but it may worry the club when it doesn't fill a site since all the HS are taken and people go elsewhere, whereas now they'll take a chance on getting one and take grass if nothing is else is available when they arrive?

EmilysDad replied on 12/07/2019 19:14

Posted on 12/07/2019 18:52 by JollyKernow

Evening

I think you'll find that present day prices are slightly more than that JV. Try more in the line of 3k for a basic hardstanding if there's already a tarmac road. If there's not you can add on £80 per meter to get to it. That was 2017 prices.  Don't know the cost of planning but I know it's a contributing factor when deciding where and when to put hardstands in.

Grass any day for mecool

JK

Posted on 12/07/2019 19:14

Grass any day for me

And me laughing

replied on 12/07/2019 19:29

Posted on 12/07/2019 19:13 by Cornersteady

interesting, so say a site is open for 8 months (March - October) that is at say £25 per night per pitch income averaged out (?), that's a possible rough figure of £6000 income, now if it's a grass pitch then maybe it is out of use for 4 months? that means a loss of £3000 pounds, turn it into a HS and you can use it all year and it sort of pays for itself in one year, and makes more income the following year.

Yes I know these are rough figures and maybe you won't fill every pitch all the time (well some sites manage it though) and the average price per night might be wrong but you can scale it over two years or even have the site open all year/longer, but it gives you an idea of why HS are so attractive to the club?

Yes by all means charge for a HS over grass, won't worry me on a number of levelssmile but it may worry the club when it doesn't fill a site since all the HS are taken and people go elsewhere, whereas now they'll take a chance on getting one and take grass if nothing is else is available when they arrive?

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Navigateur replied on 12/07/2019 19:47

Posted on 12/07/2019 19:47

Just to make the idea of charging a bigger amount for awning pitches than non-awning ones, what would happen at sites such as Bunree where the loch side pitches are the ones in great demand, yet they are non-awning?

Cornersteady replied on 12/07/2019 19:56

Posted on 12/07/2019 19:13 by Cornersteady

interesting, so say a site is open for 8 months (March - October) that is at say £25 per night per pitch income averaged out (?), that's a possible rough figure of £6000 income, now if it's a grass pitch then maybe it is out of use for 4 months? that means a loss of £3000 pounds, turn it into a HS and you can use it all year and it sort of pays for itself in one year, and makes more income the following year.

Yes I know these are rough figures and maybe you won't fill every pitch all the time (well some sites manage it though) and the average price per night might be wrong but you can scale it over two years or even have the site open all year/longer, but it gives you an idea of why HS are so attractive to the club?

Yes by all means charge for a HS over grass, won't worry me on a number of levelssmile but it may worry the club when it doesn't fill a site since all the HS are taken and people go elsewhere, whereas now they'll take a chance on getting one and take grass if nothing is else is available when they arrive?

Posted on 12/07/2019 19:56

thanks DD, appreciated

Cornersteady replied on 12/07/2019 20:03

Posted on 12/07/2019 19:47 by Navigateur

Just to make the idea of charging a bigger amount for awning pitches than non-awning ones, what would happen at sites such as Bunree where the loch side pitches are the ones in great demand, yet they are non-awning?

Posted on 12/07/2019 20:03

you could call them pitches with outstanding views, high demand pitches, waterside pitches, special interest pitches...

nelliethehooker replied on 12/07/2019 20:20

Posted on 12/07/2019 20:20

say a site is open for 8 months (March - October) that is at say £25 per night per pitch income averaged out (?), that's a possible rough figure of £6000 income, now if it's a grass pitch then maybe it is out of use for 4 months?

You are inferring that a grass pitch would only be in use for 4 months a year, what a load of rubbish. Perhaps over the winter period it may be closed for 4 months, if it was an all year site, but I suspect that the vast majority of grass pitches would be in use for 7 months of the year at least.

 

replied on 12/07/2019 20:21

Posted on 12/07/2019 20:13 by nelliethehooker

It would take a lot of getting back with no price differential!!wink

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