Cayton Village Redevelopment

Watersideranger replied on 11/09/2019 11:05

Posted on 11/09/2019 11:05

The plans for the redevelopment of Cayton Village site have been submitted to Scarborough Council (19/01463/FL) 

Cayton Village Caravan And Motorhome Club Site Mill Lane Cayton Scarborough YO113NN
Proposal Reconfiguration of existing site to provide 207 caravan and motorhome pitches, 12 glamping pods and 12 tent pitches with 2 no. toilet blocks, additional warden compounds, garage and store, 2no. water booster systems and play area. Associated alterations to site roads, landscaping, car parking and site security barriers.

No storage which is a disappointment, other than that I'm looking forward to visiting, but when?

Cornersteady replied on 11/09/2019 12:54

Posted on 11/09/2019 12:54

Following the purchase of the site in 2018, the Club plans to redevelop the site over the winter 2019/2020 period (subject to planning consent).

The site will close on 3 November 2019 and we will bring you more news as this exciting project moves forward. We plan to re-open the site towards the end of July 2020 and look forward to welcoming you back or making you welcome on your first visit to this popular part of the country.

What we are planning:

To replace the existing pitch setup with a variety of brand new pitch types and a new layout scheme on both parts of the site.
Upon completion the plan is to have an increase in touring pitches, provision of camping pitches and a number of brand new 'glamping' accommodation units, improved infrastructure, new facilities buildings and a brand new childrens' play area

 

I look forward to going once it's up to standard.

The camping pods at Coniston were well used (many like us with family/friends on the site) and bring in extra income from those without a caravan/MH?

MikeyA replied on 11/09/2019 13:31

Posted on 11/09/2019 13:31

Just had a quick look at the plans and it looks as the designers are making the same mistakes as ever.

When will they realise that the most direct route from Point A ( any pitch) to Point B (toilet block) is a straight line. No one will walk all around the perimeter on the roads, (doubling the distance) if there is a more obvious shorter direct route.

Cornersteady replied on 11/09/2019 14:27

Posted on 11/09/2019 13:31 by MikeyA

Just had a quick look at the plans and it looks as the designers are making the same mistakes as ever.

When will they realise that the most direct route from Point A ( any pitch) to Point B (toilet block) is a straight line. No one will walk all around the perimeter on the roads, (doubling the distance) if there is a more obvious shorter direct route.

Posted on 11/09/2019 14:27

That doesn't make sense burt at all.

You are talking about walking but you forget that the road are necessary for caravans and MH to actually get to a pitch? And of course pitches are put in along the roads. It is a fact of life on camping sites. 

And no one? perhaps a minority of rude people will try and walk across pitches but many will walk on roads.

Could you post a link to a site where your idea actually happens?

 

MikeyA replied on 11/09/2019 14:59

Posted on 11/09/2019 14:59

I am well aware that cars and caravans need roads but the vast majority of people are expected to walk to the facilities. It is just human nature that pedestrians will normally take the shortest route no matter what designers want. Obviously if the shortest route is impeded by fences/ponds/flower beds this might not be easy.

Many complaints have been made over the design at Southport where pedestrians take a direct route to the facilities across one of the pitches -this should have been foreseen at the design stage.

Have a look at the location plan of the new site and explain to me if the following proposed pedestrian routes make sense

Lower Caravan site - Why is there no short cut from just above the upper non awning campervan pitch to the dog wash at the rear of the facility building. Do you really expect members to walk all the way around the roadway.

Laurels Upper Caravan. The members using the pitches at the top right area are expected to walk on a circuitous route to the facilities instead of a crossover point being provided to connect to the roadway to the left and then walking down the dead end and then another footpath to intersect with the side wall of the facility block.

 

Cornersteady replied on 11/09/2019 15:12

Posted on 11/09/2019 14:59 by MikeyA

I am well aware that cars and caravans need roads but the vast majority of people are expected to walk to the facilities. It is just human nature that pedestrians will normally take the shortest route no matter what designers want. Obviously if the shortest route is impeded by fences/ponds/flower beds this might not be easy.

Many complaints have been made over the design at Southport where pedestrians take a direct route to the facilities across one of the pitches -this should have been foreseen at the design stage.

Have a look at the location plan of the new site and explain to me if the following proposed pedestrian routes make sense

Lower Caravan site - Why is there no short cut from just above the upper non awning campervan pitch to the dog wash at the rear of the facility building. Do you really expect members to walk all the way around the roadway.

Laurels Upper Caravan. The members using the pitches at the top right area are expected to walk on a circuitous route to the facilities instead of a crossover point being provided to connect to the roadway to the left and then walking down the dead end and then another footpath to intersect with the side wall of the facility block.

 

Posted on 11/09/2019 15:12

well Burt I'm glad you have taken such an interest in club sites and their design and problems at them.

Where are these many complaints about the Southport site? I've had a quick look at the reviews and couldn't find anything about what you described? Have you been there and experienced such problems?

Could you post a link to the plans so that we can all share what you are trying to say as it difficult to visualize what you are trying to say? Or indeed how long these circuitous routes are

Like I said I am pleased you're taking so much notice, are you planing to go there? Perhaps you should write in to the club with your suggestions before any building work takes place?

But personally they make sense, it is a caravan/MH site after all and really walking around a site is never that onerous is it? Perhaps a few extra minutes for these circuitous routes but you (one) is supposed to be on holiday.

There are always people who don't have enough manners to walk where they are supposed to but I doubt it is no one who will not walk where they are supposed to?

MikeyA replied on 11/09/2019 15:24

Posted on 11/09/2019 15:24

Corners,   Here is the link to the main site for Scarborough Planning applications    Planning     -  then  Press the blue box and then enter the reference number  19/01463/FL

View the proposed site plan and all will be revealed.

It always pays to look at  the proposals before shooting the messenger.

 

 

JVB66 replied on 11/09/2019 15:46

Posted on 11/09/2019 15:37 by moulesy

"No one will walk all around the perimeter on the roads, (doubling the distance) if there is a more obvious shorter direct route."

Sorry, but I would!  wink

Posted on 11/09/2019 15:46

The last two sites and this one we have had some taking the "direct route to the loos, and we will do the same herewink