Marazion
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DavidKlyne replied on 14/06/2021 14:53
Posted on 14/06/2021 12:34 by young thomasi was just affirming that there is certainly room for them and losing any is a shame...if there had been one in one of the areas we visited, we would have used one..
DK suggests that full facs make more, but as stated upthread, the investment is significantly higher..as is the maintenance, certwinly in Covid...we were at one site which stated the showers were closed from 10-12!!! for cleaning every day.
Posted on 14/06/2021 14:53
Just to be clear I would have no objection to the Club opening more no facility sites. However from a commercial point of view I think the Club would seriously consider the likely financial outcome between a no facility site and a full facility site. Imagine the Club purchase a plot of land large enough for 100 pitches. Even a no facility site would involve considerable investment. Electrics would be no different on either site nor would the provision of water and waste. Given what they have done at Hebden Bridge I imagine they would want to include the provision for say a couple of dozen service pitches. So the only real additional cost is the facility block £250,000 plus depending on size. Comparing the non facility site Hebden Bridge with the full facility site at Hawes the difference in pitch price per night is between £10 and £15 a night, so potentially £1000/1500 a night extra revenue. Clearly a facility block would probably have a minimum life of 25 years and even allowing for extra staffing costs the Club would stand to substantially add to its finances over the longer term. My argument is therefore the full facility site would provide the better return on investment in the long run. If thinking about the future, will caravans and motorhomes be as well equipped as they are now given the uncertainty of electric propulsion. Could it be that in future LV's will be more basic and rely more on site provided facilities. The truth is we don't know!
David
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JVB66 replied on 14/06/2021 17:18
Posted on 14/06/2021 11:37 by young thomas...but many members 'on the inside' that ive spoken to (incl some at FM) feel that Β£30 a night (even with members discount) is still pretty steep....for the Club's basic offering of a pitch and a loo/shower,
we had 3 nights at Seacroft, Β£99+, which is pushing things...with no water on the pitch, no free wifi, pool closed (in fact it looked hideous) and the usuals rows of vans...
we are now on our last site of the tour (commercial) and have a lovely open area (each hedged area has just 6 or 7 vans), water on the pitch, included wifi, lovely open swimming pool, bar, restaurant, far nicer, larger showers than the typical CC offering and Β£32 a night...
Posted on 14/06/2021 17:18
Some where we are at Bearsted ,say it is expensive? ,until they are made aware of what it costs these days to run sites that use employed staff,, where the majority of other than basic maintenance has to be out sourced to specialist companies ,where their staff are all "qualified" to carry out such work,,
On family run sites the risk is theirs
brue replied on 14/06/2021 17:37
JVB66 replied on 14/06/2021 17:45
Posted on 14/06/2021 17:37 by brueNo on family run sites the risks are just the same, that's business for you.
I'm wondering if the club has tried to reply but after waiting ten minutes for their post to come through or getting a server error they gave up....
JVB66 replied on 14/06/2021 18:18
Posted on 14/06/2021 10:49 by TinwheelerI think I'm correct in saying that those who hire MH's via the club's link up with Swift get temp membership of the club so they wouldn't pay the supplement.π€·ββοΈ
young thomas replied on 14/06/2021 19:15
Posted on 14/06/2021 14:36 by EmilysDad@BoleroBoy ... if you include the (sorry but) awful Inclborough Fields which we stayed as short a time as possible) and
Just wondered why you thought that π We stayed there a few years back & liked the site especially as it wasn't all gravel
Posted on 14/06/2021 19:15
yes, it was all grass (what we saw, and where we pitched) but we felt we were totally overlooked, far too many pitches crammed in, too hilly, too far even to get off the site....just not for us ....and i play golf!
as it happens, we got a cancellation to move directly to Seacroft...which was more expensive....but a far nicer location, site more level, less overlooked etc...
we all have different tastes but OH and i knew before we had reached the check in that it probably wasn't for us....after we found a pitch ('twas rammed) that confirmed it.
probably a love it or hate it site.
i think EasyT loves it, we just couldnt im afraid...no worries, we just moved on..
Takethedogalong replied on 14/06/2021 20:30
Posted on 14/06/2021 20:30
We would choose Incleborough over Seacroft funnily enough. Just like the location much better. We stayed in a gorgeous cottage in West Runton last year, and I walked the footpath alongside Incleborough. It’s very handy for the rail links as well, more so than Seacroft. Did you get around any of the lovely gardens around there BB, Felbrigg or Blickling? I suspect they would be lovely at the moment.
EmilysDad replied on 14/06/2021 20:40
Posted on 14/06/2021 19:15 by young thomasyes, it was all grass (what we saw, and where we pitched) but we felt we were totally overlooked, far too many pitches crammed in, too hilly, too far even to get off the site....just not for us ....and i play golf!
as it happens, we got a cancellation to move directly to Seacroft...which was more expensive....but a far nicer location, site more level, less overlooked etc...
we all have different tastes but OH and i knew before we had reached the check in that it probably wasn't for us....after we found a pitch ('twas rammed) that confirmed it.
probably a love it or hate it site.
i think EasyT loves it, we just couldnt im afraid...no worries, we just moved on..
young thomas replied on 14/06/2021 20:54
Posted on 14/06/2021 20:30 by TakethedogalongWe would choose Incleborough over Seacroft funnily enough. Just like the location much better. We stayed in a gorgeous cottage in West Runton last year, and I walked the footpath alongside Incleborough. Itβs very handy for the rail links as well, more so than Seacroft. Did you get around any of the lovely gardens around there BB, Felbrigg or Blickling? I suspect they would be lovely at the moment.
Takethedogalong replied on 14/06/2021 21:08
Posted on 14/06/2021 21:08
North Norfolk has some really lovely CLs and CS sites, some of the best in the country, so it’s rare we use Club Sites there. Only been to Incleborough once, a couple of nights one Autumn, only half of Site open very quite. Never been to Sandringham or Seacroft, but we have always enjoyed Fakenham Racecourse. Not sure if it’s still a Club Site nowadays.
I think part of our Cornish trip in September might be to seek out an alternative to Marazion if it comes to pass that Club have lost it. We prefer not to be too far down either Lands End or the Lizard, as it can be a tad more cut off at either, that’s why we loved this location. Choice of coasts, equidistant to either LE or Lizard, and easy to get elsewhere such as Falmouth, St Agnes Etc....
brue
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