Environment v quality of life

LeTouriste replied on 24/08/2019 13:01

Posted on 24/08/2019 13:01

We are being advised to avoid eating red meat and dairy products, to eliminate cattle and reduce production of methane.  One MP suggests we should scrap all our cars.   The Amazon rain forest, which produces 20% of Earth's oxygen and soaks up CO2, is seriously under threat.  The oceans are being polluted at an alarming rate, and coral reefs are dying in vast numbers.  Household refuse is becoming difficult to manage, and recycling has a long way to go before it becomes really effective.  Oh dear, what a boring outlook for future generations.  It's great to be old!smile

DavidKlyne replied on 12/09/2019 11:21

Posted on 12/09/2019 00:20 by MJG1959

Our country is small compared to the likes of France.

We dont need our own version of TGV.

Posted on 12/09/2019 11:21

Total passenger numbers in France and the UK are very similar which just confirms how busy our rail system is. French rail passengers travel a greater number of kilometres than passengers in the UK but that is only to be expected given that France has twice the land mass of the UK.

David

Twos more the one replied on 07/10/2019 08:22

Posted on 07/10/2019 08:22

When you read some of these posts it is depressing 
From lack of knowledge on global warming,  and environmental damage etc .
The unwillingness to do what is needed, from the generation which probably is responsible for the causes 

 

Cornersteady replied on 07/10/2019 08:33

Posted on 07/10/2019 08:22 by Twos more the one

When you read some of these posts it is depressing 
From lack of knowledge on global warming,  and environmental damage etc .
The unwillingness to do what is needed, from the generation which probably is responsible for the causes 

 

Posted on 07/10/2019 08:33

Good point, but what are you personally doing?

Tinwheeler replied on 07/10/2019 08:36

Posted on 07/10/2019 08:36

TMTO, in my book, no one who drags a large white box or drives a commercial vehicle around the country as a leisure pursuit has the right to criticise others in matters of environmental responsibility.

I’m afraid anything you write will, for me, forever be tainted by your ridiculous words elsewhere.

"Nice site, though trees could do with pruning, and cutting back, especially in height. So if you are going for a long stay, taking a set of pruning shears, and a chain saw, might be a good idea"

jennyc replied on 07/10/2019 10:53

Posted on 07/10/2019 10:53

Thank you David, for another well considered post, as ever. Pliers asks who’s criticising Greta - see here Pliers https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/greta-thunberg-climate-change-crisis-strike-austism-misogyny-protest-speech-a9127971.html

We have a Prime Minister who was a climate change denier, until the then Prime Minister told, not asked, him to do a U turn for political expediency. The US President patronised her.  But she’s got some good advisors along with her own marketing talent, so she’s out finessed him. The Chinese have taken major and effective steps to reduce population growth, the Japanese birth rate has dropped below parity, and the Brazilian president is hell bent on maintaining popularity by appeasing Amazon forest abusers. A wannabe UK Prime Minister wants to restore lost benefits for families with > two children.

In truth, populism is overwhelming any well considered plans for a sustainable future for our children. To an extent, that’s the inevitable result of allowing votes from people who aren’t educated to research before expressing views. Others trample the majority, out of self interest. Maybe I should switch off our LED bathroom lights instead of writing.

JVB66 replied on 07/10/2019 11:05

Posted on 07/10/2019 08:22 by Twos more the one

When you read some of these posts it is depressing 
From lack of knowledge on global warming,  and environmental damage etc .
The unwillingness to do what is needed, from the generation which probably is responsible for the causes 

 

Posted on 07/10/2019 11:05

You sound just like our Grandaughterundecided blaming our generation?,yet when asked what she is doing to set an example to us,cannot see that her flying everywhere for holidays, driving to the shops (half mile from her house)and always has the latest gadgets (that we never had) is harming the planet far more than we ever couldwink

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 07/10/2019 13:45

Posted on 07/10/2019 10:53 by jennyc

Thank you David, for another well considered post, as ever. Pliers asks who’s criticising Greta - see here Pliers https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/greta-thunberg-climate-change-crisis-strike-austism-misogyny-protest-speech-a9127971.html

We have a Prime Minister who was a climate change denier, until the then Prime Minister told, not asked, him to do a U turn for political expediency. The US President patronised her.  But she’s got some good advisors along with her own marketing talent, so she’s out finessed him. The Chinese have taken major and effective steps to reduce population growth, the Japanese birth rate has dropped below parity, and the Brazilian president is hell bent on maintaining popularity by appeasing Amazon forest abusers. A wannabe UK Prime Minister wants to restore lost benefits for families with > two children.

In truth, populism is overwhelming any well considered plans for a sustainable future for our children. To an extent, that’s the inevitable result of allowing votes from people who aren’t educated to research before expressing views. Others trample the majority, out of self interest. Maybe I should switch off our LED bathroom lights instead of writing.

Posted on 07/10/2019 13:45

LED bathroom lights?, tip-write in the daylight then no need for any lights👍🏻, happy to help😊

brue replied on 07/10/2019 13:53

Posted on 07/10/2019 13:53

Just noticed a M&S has changed from black plastic food packaging to a lighter colour so that the recycling centres will recognise it and not reject it . Are the rest doing it? I don't visit many supermarkets. But I see a bit of progress, which is good. smile

DavidKlyne replied on 07/10/2019 15:53

Posted on 07/10/2019 13:53 by brue

Just noticed a M&S has changed from black plastic food packaging to a lighter colour so that the recycling centres will recognise it and not reject it . Are the rest doing it? I don't visit many supermarkets. But I see a bit of progress, which is good. smile

Posted on 07/10/2019 15:53

Certainly Waitrose announced the same thing some time ago and I am sure others will be doing the same. I would be interested to know why they used black containers in the first place (probably cheaper?)  and why they couldn't develop a system that could spot them going through the recycling process. I am still of the view that the main problem with recycling is that there is no nationwide authority in charge of setting best practice. Each local authority seems to be left to its own devices. No wonder there is so much confusion on Club sites on what can be recycled!!! 

David

Just a quick edit to say that whatever colour the food containers are they have to be clean when put out for recycling. As I am standing at the kitchen sink washing them out with hot water I often worry that I am using even more energy to get them clean? I suppose the main objective is for them not to go into landfill.