The future

malnik replied on 07/10/2020 22:04

Posted on 07/10/2020 22:04

I have been a member for 3 years now, I don't think i can continue my membership for the years ahead. As a young family i find this club not exactly "family friendly". More to the point, I have been looking at the make up of the people at the head of the table, the council members and commitee. 

We live in a diverse country and our nation is much better for that amazing diversity. Unfortunately the club seems to be a relic of the 70s, diversity seems to be something we as a club are unaware of. I'm sure they are all doing a great job but how can we go ahead without our club reflecting the make up of the country and the people they represent. Dont get me started on age groups being represented. I have no idea what ages everyone is, but i don't see young families represented and once again, they can't be ignored. Unless ofcourse the club is for elderly white people only. Again, this is no criticism of those people.

The easy answer is anyone can apply or put themselves forward. But the aptmosphere has to be right, it has to be friendly to people from other groups to be able to apply. Is it? What is the cub doing to encourage more diversity? Younger representation? It has to be more than just a token "anyone can apply". And this direction has to be from the leader, Mr Lomas.

On the basis of the above, I can't continue to be a member when it comes time to renew. 

Tinwheeler replied on 07/10/2020 22:21

Posted on 07/10/2020 22:21

I don’t see Ieaving will do anything to heal any division you might feel exists but I entirely get your comments about young families.

It’s ultimately your decision of course. Have you considered the C&CC as an alternative?

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Rocky 2 buckets replied on 07/10/2020 23:09

Posted on 07/10/2020 22:04 by malnik

I have been a member for 3 years now, I don't think i can continue my membership for the years ahead. As a young family i find this club not exactly "family friendly". More to the point, I have been looking at the make up of the people at the head of the table, the council members and commitee. 

We live in a diverse country and our nation is much better for that amazing diversity. Unfortunately the club seems to be a relic of the 70s, diversity seems to be something we as a club are unaware of. I'm sure they are all doing a great job but how can we go ahead without our club reflecting the make up of the country and the people they represent. Dont get me started on age groups being represented. I have no idea what ages everyone is, but i don't see young families represented and once again, they can't be ignored. Unless ofcourse the club is for elderly white people only. Again, this is no criticism of those people.

The easy answer is anyone can apply or put themselves forward. But the aptmosphere has to be right, it has to be friendly to people from other groups to be able to apply. Is it? What is the cub doing to encourage more diversity? Younger representation? It has to be more than just a token "anyone can apply". And this direction has to be from the leader, Mr Lomas.

On the basis of the above, I can't continue to be a member when it comes time to renew. 

Posted on 07/10/2020 23:09

I agree fully with you they are at least 30/40 years behind. They have no chance of changing the attitudes of the membership(the vocal ones) because they have closed minds-its the silent majority that will make a difference but their silence is deafening☹️. It was an uphill struggle for the club just to get a more inclusive name when it introduced the word motorhome to its title. Even now periodically their is a grumble re the name change. Whatever you decide for your future Malnik I wish you well.

eurortraveller replied on 07/10/2020 23:13

Posted on 07/10/2020 23:13

Malnik, I admire and approve of your sentiments, but frankly you don't need to be in any sort of Club to make good use of your Motorhome and enjoy the opportunities for travel which it gives you. 

I have met motorhomers in far flung corners of ten or twelve countries - and none of them ever gave a thought of belonging to any Club at all. I envied what they did and where they went - and if I were 40 years younger I would be with them. 

Please don't trouble yourself with the make up of this Club - it's just a curious British organisation which meets the needs of some people. I don't think you need this Club, or any other, at all. 

Good wishes to you.

peedee replied on 08/10/2020 09:25

Posted on 08/10/2020 09:25

And this direction has to be from the leader, Mr Lomas.

I have an element of sympahy for your post Malnik but some of us have not always been Club members only as oldies. Most joined when the nest was full and have enjoyed the experience even if major holidays were not taken at Club sites because of more thrilling childrens opportunities elsewhere.

Mr Lomas is not the leader, the Excutive Committee set policy, advised by a number of committees and Club Council. Mr Lomas and his team carry policy out.  One the problems I see to increased diversification is that other than staff posts the policy forming bodies are served by Club volunteers, co-opted or otherwise, which generally means it is only the retired who have the time to fill these post.

peedee

Metheven replied on 08/10/2020 09:51

Posted on 08/10/2020 09:51

Anyone with a young family would only use a Club site if the parents love interacting with them, if parents want to 'dump' them for the day then there are plenty of offerings from the all singing and dancing sites that's like camping in a kids playground.

I have had my share of children, bringing them up and interacting with them but these days I choose the Club sites for the lack of them, probably why I prefer CLs or CSs.

But the main reason both Clubs appeal to me is the other offerings besides the sites, once they are gone or not giving value then I'll be walking also.

 

Takethedogalong replied on 08/10/2020 09:52

Posted on 08/10/2020 09:52

I too agree in essence. But with one other thought. Those who bring about change do move out of their comfort zones. It takes a deal of courage to do so, especially in this day and age, where image, peer pressure and a resistance to change exists far more so than when I was  a deal younger. 

This particular Club tries in its own way, but it is deeply conservative, reactive rather than pro active, and the white, ageing, economically comfortable does dominate. It is what it is, just a holiday company embraced by on the whole nice people for whom it delivers what is required in one way or another. There are other similar models available, some offering more diversity, some being even more insular. 

Before you jump, why not suggest a family, under 40’s sub group be represented at the next AGM? Or any other diversity group you think needs help to become Members? At least it could go both ways, if considered, then from little acorns something big might grow. If it’s not considered, then you can judge if it is a Club you want to pay into?🤔

JVB66 replied on 08/10/2020 10:08

Posted on 08/10/2020 10:08

The cc have been until just in the last few years,for caravan and motorcaravan owners ,where as the ccc have until recent? years been for tenters  which may still be there main market

,It is quite noticeable ,that a lot of newer/younger families are taking up Camping with tents as the tcc have also notedwink ,and when on sites and speaking (up to this last few months)while at the "men only? washing up areas,the main reasons it seems for many?is costs and lack of parking spaces at home,when a tent and even a small trailer can be stored,

 

Takethedogalong replied on 08/10/2020 10:21

Posted on 08/10/2020 10:21

JV, have you ever paused to consider that some of your insights, snippets of information, suppositions drive home the very message that others think about the Club? 

Where does the “recent tent” thoughts come from? I camped under canvas with this Club thirty odd years ago. I wash pots with all sexes at the pot wash stations, have done for thirty plus years.

You are jumping to the conclusion younger families are buying tents......no they are not, they are buying campers, caravans and motorhomes as well. Don’t automatically “post hole” people on their age, perceived income or family group make up. Please.

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