Absolutely Outraged

Oneputt replied on 08/04/2019 20:10

Posted on 08/04/2019 20:10

I am livid to hear that a local Norfolk council has netted a cliff thereby stopping Sand Martins from accessing their traditional nesting sites.  There is a government petition to protect our visiting birds to bring the next generation forth.  These tiny birds fly some 2000 miles to get here then we block them, disgraceful.  I have signed the petition.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-47859604

mickysf replied on 01/05/2019 19:14

Posted on 01/05/2019 19:02 by Tinwheeler

Well said Rocky and Micky.👏🏻

I couldn’t believe what I was reading especially from one who said, as a non-member, he didn’t believe he had any right to pass comment here.

 

Posted on 01/05/2019 19:14

But it's an outdated and misguided opinion common to a few in that 'lost' and diminishing generation. We live in enlightened times, thankfully!

JVB66 replied on 01/05/2019 19:29

Posted on 01/05/2019 19:29

If any one watched countryfile diaries at 0915 on tv this morning there was a real farmer who has found out just how wrong his father was with his attitude (like fisherman it seems )towards wildlife on his farm which he has reversed, and has improved production and stopped the need for numerous chemical aids by encouraging nature to help rather than the very old and wrong farming attitude of "controlling?" 

moulesy replied on 01/05/2019 19:58

Posted on 01/05/2019 18:21 by Fisherman

Don't follow you - what context does that have for crows and pigeons. If a farmer plants say oilseed rape or peas, pigeons can  overnight from nowhere decide to raid that field. How long do  you think a farmer will need to get through the beurocracy of obtaining a licence to shoot hem? No doubt with objections from ill informed, bunny huggers  In a matter of 3 days the crop will have been decimated. Its this ignorance that makes your pundit unsuitable to represent BBC programmes. His attitude that country folks are bullies ( todays Guardian) just adds to his unsuitability.

Posted on 01/05/2019 19:58

Oh, welcome back F. How I've missed you  calm, reasoned contributions to debates such as this. I suspect it'll be the "us country folk" v "you ignorant city dwellers next". Go on .... you know you want to! frown

Pliers replied on 01/05/2019 21:50

Posted on 01/05/2019 18:21 by Fisherman

Don't follow you - what context does that have for crows and pigeons. If a farmer plants say oilseed rape or peas, pigeons can  overnight from nowhere decide to raid that field. How long do  you think a farmer will need to get through the beurocracy of obtaining a licence to shoot hem? No doubt with objections from ill informed, bunny huggers  In a matter of 3 days the crop will have been decimated. Its this ignorance that makes your pundit unsuitable to represent BBC programmes. His attitude that country folks are bullies ( todays Guardian) just adds to his unsuitability.

Posted on 01/05/2019 21:50

Fisherman, are you an arable farmer?

If so, I'm sure you are well aware that there are many more effective ways of protecting your newly planted crop seeds than an having a bloke with a gun shooting at birds.

And I'm not a city dweller, I live in a small, moorland edge village in Lancashire.

replied on 02/05/2019 01:22

Posted on 01/05/2019 19:58 by moulesy

Oh, welcome back F. How I've missed you  calm, reasoned contributions to debates such as this. I suspect it'll be the "us country folk" v "you ignorant city dwellers next". Go on .... you know you want to! frown

Posted on 02/05/2019 01:22

I think that Fisherman is entitled to his view without ridicule M

Fisherman replied on 02/05/2019 07:52

Posted on 02/05/2019 07:52

Great-Rural affairs and nature dictated by smug, eco warriors, with their celebrity status attracting the arm chair, environmentalists. Almost like Brexit -  Glad for the welcome back. Nothing changes just the same old people with their blinkered views.

 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 02/05/2019 07:57

Posted on 02/05/2019 01:22 by

I think that Fisherman is entitled to his view without ridicule M

Posted on 02/05/2019 07:57

Others are entitled to disagree too. As you have with M & LL👍🏻

replied on 02/05/2019 08:23

Posted on 02/05/2019 07:57 by Rocky 2 buckets

Others are entitled to disagree too. As you have with M & LL👍🏻

Posted on 02/05/2019 08:23

I had not realised that entitlement automaically included a consent to belittle and ridicule a poster. I thought that required other circumstances. 

I am grateful for this thread though as I was struggling yesterday to remember the collective name ..... 'corvid'

mickysf replied on 02/05/2019 08:23

Posted on 02/05/2019 07:52 by Fisherman

Great-Rural affairs and nature dictated by smug, eco warriors, with their celebrity status attracting the arm chair, environmentalists. Almost like Brexit -  Glad for the welcome back. Nothing changes just the same old people with their blinkered views.

 

Posted on 02/05/2019 08:23

Sounds like the last death throes of the now hoodwinked few. Everything changes and the majority know this both locally and globally. Things are now well and truely focused on making those efforts to address the future for the next generations increasingly optimistic. The climate change deniers have well and truely had their day, tomorrow is for the rest, the majority!

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 02/05/2019 08:36

Posted on 02/05/2019 08:23 by

I had not realised that entitlement automaically included a consent to belittle and ridicule a poster. I thought that required other circumstances. 

I am grateful for this thread though as I was struggling yesterday to remember the collective name ..... 'corvid'

Posted on 02/05/2019 08:36

Corvid is the family name for crows, magpies etc. The collective noun is murder for crows👍🏻

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