Bristol Clean Air Zone

drc replied on 29/10/2019 19:59

Posted on 29/10/2019 19:59

Watching the local news tonight and the mayor of Bristol is proposing a clean air zone from 2021 which will have a diesel free zone in the centre which looks like it will include Baltic Wharf.

This will be in effect from 7am to 3pm, with a £100 fine for entering the zone.

If this comes into effect it will make it very difficult for any diesel tow cars or motorhomes to use the Baltic Wharf site,

 

SteveL replied on 10/11/2019 09:05

Posted on 09/11/2019 22:18 by KjellNN

We would find having to leave the Bristol site either before 7am or after 3pm very limiting, so would not use  the site.  Fortunately, we have already spent a week there several years back, and seen what we wanted to see.

We used public transport to visit the city, but used our car to visit places further afield.

Posted on 10/11/2019 09:05

We'd just leave at 3:01 pm and go as far as Cirencester. No problem arriving after 3pm. 

Just a thought, would you be allowed to drive around the site to dump waste water / fill between 7am and 3pm. I would think probably not.

SteveL replied on 10/11/2019 09:41

Posted on 09/11/2019 20:21 by DavidKlyne

Why do retired couples need two cars? 

David

Posted on 10/11/2019 09:41

I don't suppose we do anymore. Although we did when we bought the current Yaris 5 years ago. OH does not really like driving the X Trail but she does occasionally. However, we own it and it does not cost that much a year to run, £30 road tax, insurance and a service / MOT, plus a little petrol and it is very convenient having two occasionally. Although we have bus services, they don't actually go anywhere near the supermarkets without multiple changes, and we seldom use our bus passes at home. As it is out of warranty this year it will very much depend on its reliability how long we keep it. If it's like the last Yaris it will be for many years.

rayjsj replied on 11/11/2019 11:39

Posted on 30/10/2019 16:44 by DavidKlyne

We are where we are and that often means the options are limited. I would have thought that even taking a proportion of vehicles out of the area will have a positive impact even if it leaves more to do. I just wonder what people would suggest as an alternative which would produce the same result? If you think back to the old Clean Air Act that made a massive difference. 

David

Posted on 11/11/2019 11:39

Why not pinch the European idea of selling different coloured 'crit air' stickers for city center access ?  At least that would be a 'joined up' system that the whole country would know about.Rather than individual Mayors banning all and sundry vehicles with no scientific evidence. 

A confused national picture helps no one. 

We run a 10 year old petrol Yaris, £30 a year road tax,  no plan to change it.

And a 6 year old  euro 5  Fiat based 6 metre motorhome. no plans to change that either.

peedee replied on 11/11/2019 14:31

Posted on 11/11/2019 14:31

I have a 12 year old diesel volvo estate. a 9 year old 6.5 ton Euro 5 diesel powered moho and a 4 year old petrol driven run around city car, I have no plans to change any of these until I Iose my C1+E licence and only then will I rethink our requirements.

What with Baltic Wharf under the threat of closure, it reads as though if you want to use the Bristol site, best do it sooner rather than later.

peedee

brue replied on 11/11/2019 14:41

Posted on 11/11/2019 11:39 by rayjsj

Why not pinch the European idea of selling different coloured 'crit air' stickers for city center access ?  At least that would be a 'joined up' system that the whole country would know about.Rather than individual Mayors banning all and sundry vehicles with no scientific evidence. 

A confused national picture helps no one. 

We run a 10 year old petrol Yaris, £30 a year road tax,  no plan to change it.

And a 6 year old  euro 5  Fiat based 6 metre motorhome. no plans to change that either.

Posted on 11/11/2019 14:41

The government set pollution levels and due to some areas not achieving these councils are having to take more drastic actions. Maybe if they had acted earlier gradual changes could have been introduced and vehicle owners might have had more time to plan and adapt? 

So as DK said "we are where we are."

DavidKlyne replied on 11/11/2019 14:57

Posted on 11/11/2019 11:39 by rayjsj

Why not pinch the European idea of selling different coloured 'crit air' stickers for city center access ?  At least that would be a 'joined up' system that the whole country would know about.Rather than individual Mayors banning all and sundry vehicles with no scientific evidence. 

A confused national picture helps no one. 

We run a 10 year old petrol Yaris, £30 a year road tax,  no plan to change it.

And a 6 year old  euro 5  Fiat based 6 metre motorhome. no plans to change that either.

Posted on 11/11/2019 14:57

Ray 

I do tend to agree with you on the wider picture as there seems to be a complete lack of joined up writing from the Government on how individual Councils should approach the issue of inner city pollution. The German Umwelt scheme might work but what happens when the requirement is that only Green Badges are allowed into city centres? For many that would be the equivalent to a ban. Just down the road from Bristol is Bath and, if it's still going ahead, they plan to use road pricing to control pollution. So how do two cities less than twenty miles apart come up with totally  different solutions? Many of these schemes are a reaction to a problem rather than being a preventative measure. I can see lots of confusion in coming years with so many different systems.

David

cyberyacht replied on 11/11/2019 16:43

Posted on 11/11/2019 16:43

A  Europe-wide environmental sticker system would be good. I already have two cluttering up my windscreen. Perhaps that is the "cunning plan" - fill up the windscreens with them so we can't see out to drive our vehicles.

skodaman replied on 11/11/2019 17:23

Posted on 11/11/2019 17:23

why worry about LEZs the latest electric cars are not capable of towing the type of caravan that is on sale at present most hybrid cars have a towing limit of 750-850KG  so it will most probably be electric powered motorhomes  or camper vans in the future

rayjsj replied on 11/11/2019 19:13

Posted on 11/11/2019 17:23 by skodaman

why worry about LEZs the latest electric cars are not capable of towing the type of caravan that is on sale at present most hybrid cars have a towing limit of 750-850KG  so it will most probably be electric powered motorhomes  or camper vans in the future

Posted on 11/11/2019 19:13

With electric tow cars capable of towing hardly ANY of todays caravans,

Pure electric motorhomes are a long way off, and will be 'eye wateringly expensive'.    Motorhomes last for many many years and will have to be 'forced' from the roads...But we wont go quietly.

 

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