Motorhome Road Tax

Bongonaught replied on 30/11/2017 18:50

Posted on 30/11/2017 18:50

Hi

I am thinking of trading the caravan for a motor home but I am struggling to find out how much road tax I would pay. I currently pay around £280 for the tow car being a 2.2 diesel.  The motor home I have an eye on is a Fiat Ducato Lunar 2.8 2003 mod.

By changing I can save on at least one insurance as i will be selling the car & caravan

I have had a quote for insurance from CC&MH and was pleasantly surprised.

I love the caravan but I have recently developed an unexpected and awkward heart condition (AF) which is unpredictable and have been told that riving and tearing is not on !  Not that I did any the motor mover does everything for me but I must confess that the motor home appeals to me more.

 

Anyway please can anyone hazard a guess?  I have been on the Gov. website and it is difficult to calculate

 

Cheers

 

 

 

 

BoleroBoy replied on 02/12/2017 08:47

Posted on 02/12/2017 08:47

my vehicle was plated at 3850 on the forecourt and i could happily have run it at this weight....

however, the vehicle is also easily manageable at 3500.

i chose to run it at 3500 (and pay £80 more taxundecided, it cost me nothing for the replate) as i wanted the higher speed limits (i know these are based on 'unladen weight' which hasnt changed but is an 'easier' conversation with plod at 3500.....) and the ability to drive into any Continental town/village without worrying about the increasingly common weight restrictions.

we wanted a more 'go anywhere' van, this time and i cant be doing with weight restrictions if im popping into the village for a recce.....

peedee replied on 02/12/2017 09:10

Posted on 02/12/2017 09:10

the ability to drive into any Continental town/village without worrying about the increasingly common weight restrictions

BB, This usually only applies to commercial vehicles and does not apply for access anyway, e.g. to a campsite or aire. Nevertheless it is wise not to flaunt the restrictions without good reason. You never know what you might encounter which prevents passage.

peedee

EasyT replied on 02/12/2017 18:23

Posted on 02/12/2017 08:47 by BoleroBoy

my vehicle was plated at 3850 on the forecourt and i could happily have run it at this weight....

however, the vehicle is also easily manageable at 3500.

i chose to run it at 3500 (and pay £80 more taxundecided, it cost me nothing for the replate) as i wanted the higher speed limits (i know these are based on 'unladen weight' which hasnt changed but is an 'easier' conversation with plod at 3500.....) and the ability to drive into any Continental town/village without worrying about the increasingly common weight restrictions.

we wanted a more 'go anywhere' van, this time and i cant be doing with weight restrictions if im popping into the village for a recce.....

Posted on 02/12/2017 18:23

Some of the 3500 motorhomes seem to have really low payloads like 250/270kg. However what is included in MIRO. Is there an allowance for fuel, driver, water? 

Tigi replied on 02/12/2017 19:00

Posted on 02/12/2017 19:00

I have just paid £115 for a Mercedes GLC 250d which just goes to show what a complete shambles VED has become, started by Osborne and now continued by Hammond. 

BoleroBoy replied on 03/12/2017 08:30

Posted on 02/12/2017 18:23 by EasyT

Some of the 3500 motorhomes seem to have really low payloads like 250/270kg. However what is included in MIRO. Is there an allowance for fuel, driver, water? 

Posted on 03/12/2017 08:30

Alan, youre right, and ive made posts about this before, especially when manufacturers try and run vehicles thatbare patently 'too large' to run successfully (even legally) at this weight.....eg Bailey 7-90 series, where rear axle weights will undoubtedly be compromised well before total MTPLM is reached...

however, in the case of our van (1.5m shorter and 37cm slimmer than the above example) we weigh a lot less.....unladen weight 2645kg, so lots of spare...

of course, both factory and dealer options/extras have to be factored in and, despite plenty of these, we are comfotably under the MTPLM and axle weights when fully loaded with all our long term kit....

as you say, note must be taken of what is (or more to the point, isnt) included in any MIRO stated.

a few years ago, it was relatively easy....driver (75kg), fuel 90%, water 90%, one full gas bottle.....from memory.

however, many manufacturers dont include ANY water in their MIRO, nor gas in some cases, miraculously upping the 'payload' by 100kg or more....guaranteed to scoop up more unsuspecting customers.

so the answer to your (general) MIRO question is.....'could be anything', do check very carefully.

in the case of the Bailey above (which was featured recently in MMM and the rear axle issue highlighted......but sadly not weighed to reveal the full 'evidence') my suspicions are that, on the 3500 chassis, by adding 'Mrs New Owner' and a full tank of water 'may' take the rear axle overweight before actually putting anything to do with motorhoming inside the van.....and bikes/racks etc will just seal its fate as 'not fit for purpose'....

take care out there.