Towing with Hybrid/electric cars

pegwr33 replied on 22/06/2019 20:04

Posted on 22/06/2019 20:04

I know that the Mitsubishi Phev can tow, but what other hybrid/electric vehicles are out there which would comfortably tow a mid-range caravan weighing around 1,500 kgs?

I have looked at some forums and it seems to suggest that towing with a hybrid is not to be recommended.

flatcoat replied on 28/07/2019 19:21

Posted on 28/07/2019 19:21

I am with Milo on this. The theoretical EV only distance referred to above will most certainly be a lot less in winter and even worse with 100,000 miles on the clock. The ONLY used hybrid in my budget (£11,000) that will potentially tow my caravan with a MTPLM of 1800kg is a Lexus RX400h SUV. However the nose weight limit is a bit low at 80kg and real world solo economy is poor in comparison with an equivalent diesel. There was  Touareg Hybrid briefly available some years ago and MBZ sold a diesel hybrid E class estate however it does not appear type approved for towing. The only other possible option i have identified is the Volvo V60 diesel hybrid which will eventually drop in value into my budget, if it is type approved and can tow my caravan. Even our local Mitsubishi dealer does not recommend the Outlander PHEV for towing and suggests buying a Shogun Sport. 

davetommo replied on 28/07/2019 21:02

Posted on 27/07/2019 19:45 by howdoo1794

In Oct 2018 i swooped my 65plate Ford Kuga for the 2019 model Outlander PHEV with the new 2.4ltr petrol engine.Without a doubt the Outlander does not come anywhere near the towing performance the Kuga had. I have done a lot of short breaks e.g 50/60 miles distance from home and found the Outlander sutable for the role. I have just come back from a long trek from Wakefield to Fairford. I did find the car lacking but what you have to take into account the many different modes you can put the car in, normal/Save electric/Charge and I found in the Eco mode and cruise set at 54/56 mph the car did well 32mpg average. But as mentioned previously the 6 days I was there I did not use any fuel as I charged the car overnight while on site, covering a total of 168 miles free of charge.

Just think on those members who doubt the coming of the electric age, not many of you tow the caravan every single day of the week i.e going to work shopping visiting family and friends, this is where the Outlander shines again I rarely put fuel in as I charge it overnight at home at a cost of 94p in return for 28miles distance.  

Posted on 28/07/2019 21:02

A cycle is even cheaper, couple of hundred pounds excellent for short journeys and no faffing with a power lead. Plus the one person power does not cost a penny.

flatcoat replied on 29/07/2019 10:14

Posted on 29/07/2019 10:14

I fail to understand the logic of spending £1000’s of pounds on depreciation to upgrade a perfectly good tow car to one which is inferior at towing just to be able to drive (an alleged) 28 miles for 94p. The most environmentally sustainable car is the one you already have.... (or in this case had). Do people not get that depreciation is THE single biggest cost of motoring and their is nothing environmentally friendly about buying a brand new car, hybrid or otherwise?  

Lutz replied on 29/07/2019 14:20

Posted on 29/07/2019 14:20

The ONLY used hybrid in my budget (£11,000) that will potentially tow my caravan with a MTPLM of 1800kg is a Lexus RX400h SUV. However the nose weight limit is a bit low at 80kg and real world solo economy is poor in comparison with an equivalent diesel.

I towed an 1800kg caravan with a Lexus RX400h for over 6 years and can't say that the solo fuel economy was bad. On the contrary, I thought it was good, especially in lots of stop-start city driving where I was getting up to 50mpg, which can't be bad for a car of that size and weight. It was more the economy when towing that wasn't so good - somewhere around 20mpg, sometimes even worse, depending on the conditions.

cyberyacht replied on 29/07/2019 15:30

Posted on 29/07/2019 15:30

Any view will be coloured by whether the tow car is also used for a relatively short urban commute. As they are not the most nimble in an urban environment requiring also bigger parking spaces, I would imagine such vehicles would only be used as a "last resort" urban choice. It therefore makes more sense to choose a straightforward capable tug rather than trying to get the best of both worlds. Most of us would do better to use public transport/bike. The environmental cost of manufacture rarely gets mentioned either.

brue replied on 29/07/2019 16:30

Posted on 29/07/2019 14:20 by Lutz

The ONLY used hybrid in my budget (£11,000) that will potentially tow my caravan with a MTPLM of 1800kg is a Lexus RX400h SUV. However the nose weight limit is a bit low at 80kg and real world solo economy is poor in comparison with an equivalent diesel.

I towed an 1800kg caravan with a Lexus RX400h for over 6 years and can't say that the solo fuel economy was bad. On the contrary, I thought it was good, especially in lots of stop-start city driving where I was getting up to 50mpg, which can't be bad for a car of that size and weight. It was more the economy when towing that wasn't so good - somewhere around 20mpg, sometimes even worse, depending on the conditions.

Posted on 29/07/2019 16:30

I think that's a fair comment Lutz and no -ne is saying "go out and buy a hybrid" it's been an interesting discussion. smile

Tigi replied on 16/08/2019 20:50

Posted on 16/08/2019 20:50

A poster on the Volvo Forum quotes his MPG on a drive to the S of France in a T8 XC60 (hybrid) as 16mpg with a fairly large van, Aside from the cost he found it necessary to plan the fuel stops presumably due to a smaller fuel tank in addition to the consumption.

Wildwood replied on 17/08/2019 11:08

Posted on 17/08/2019 11:08

Towing is a relatively small part of driving for most of us so the poor fuel consumption when doing this may be offset by the cheap travel at other times. If you are towing to Italy though hybrids look out of the question.

You do need to look at your towing mileage compared with the rest and do your own sums to see if they work for you.

replied on 17/08/2019 11:28

Posted on 17/08/2019 11:08 by Wildwood

Towing is a relatively small part of driving for most of us so the poor fuel consumption when doing this may be offset by the cheap travel at other times. If you are towing to Italy though hybrids look out of the question.

You do need to look at your towing mileage compared with the rest and do your own sums to see if they work for you.

Posted on 17/08/2019 11:28

You do need to look at your towing mileage compared with the rest and do your own sums to see if they work for you.
 

Exactly. 40% of our tow cars mileage is towing and I guess 50% is while on site and I guess only 10% running around at home as we have another daily driver at home.

I suppose that for lower mileage motorists that relative purchase cost of the car to make a saving is another factor.

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