What are reviews for?

moulesy replied on 08/07/2019 21:42

Posted on 08/07/2019 21:42

I like reading reviews of both club sites and CLs. I like to know what folk think of the sites, the surroundings, local places of interest, activities (even occasionally shopping opportunities!) and places to eat. For CLs it's also useful to know about any access difficulties or what facilities are available and their standard.

But just lately reviews, particularly of club sites seem to have become little more than an opportunity to air grievances. If it's not having a go at the wardens  (usually prefaced by comments like "we were only 50 minutes early", "my dog was only off the lead twice" , "I only just drove over the grass when reversing my van") it's complaints about barking dogs, loud TVs etc.

Today we have a review which now stretches to 20 posts and, apart from a reference to it being "a lovely site " in the opening sentence of the OP, there's not a single word about the site itself.

Is this what reviews should be? Are there not more appropriate means of taking up issues which have happened on one's visit? When I read reviews, even of club sites on, for example, UKcampsite these grievances aren't aired.

So my question is as in the title "what are reviews for"? What do others think?

replied on 09/07/2019 06:43

Posted on 08/07/2019 22:18 by DavidKlyne

I think members are invited to comment and rate a campsite/CL they have just stayed at. There are no instructions or suggestions on how that should be approached. It is up to the reader to sift through the reviews for any site in general and make up their minds accordingly. If someone has, in their view, had a bad experience of staying on a site there are no rules to say they can't express those views. Sometimes the same issue comes up time and time again which should flag something up to the Regional Manager for the site involved. It can also flag up where more communication with members is needed.

Personally I think the ability for other members to comment on a review should be removed or reserved for Club staff to comment. Invariably such comments are usually about disagreeing with the original review which is a bit odd as people who add comments have not had the same experience as recounted by the original reviewer which in my view is unfair. I tend to delete comments on reviews unless they actually add information rather than just being critical. 

David

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Whittakerr replied on 09/07/2019 07:09

Posted on 09/07/2019 07:09

I’ve stopped referring to reviews as an aid to deciding if I want to stop at a particular site. The club website gives me all the information I need about the actual site, size, facilities, access, etc. As for the local area and places to visit, in the time it takes to read a reasonable number of reviews, I can trawl the internet and get all the information I want.

replied on 09/07/2019 07:18

Posted on 09/07/2019 06:43 by

I agree almost entirely with your comments David; very sensible.  However, I take issue with your last sentence; that is blatant censorship, not moderation.    

As far as the content of reviews is concerned I expect to read about the pros and cons of the site and its surroundings, plus anything that seems to affect it particularly if comments indicate a trend.  

Posted on 09/07/2019 07:18

I agree with both paragraphs. With reference to the first; there is already sufficient censorship on this site. As for only permitting staff to respond to reviews that would seem a waste of time as they do not respond to reviews!

A case in point has been two reviews about the route to Gowerton which, if I did not know better would have put me off ever visiting. The reviewers both seem to have approached the site from the wrong direction through two narrow bridges one of which is signed as 2.3m max width. Staff should have picked up on this and commented on the review itself but obviously don't read and comment

Cornersteady replied on 09/07/2019 07:37

Posted on 09/07/2019 07:37

Personally, I write a review to give information for future visitors, so approaches, site facilities,  an idea of the site, the size of the pitches,or anything that may affect your stay and what is around it, especially if there are new shops, restaurants, or supermarkets. Also any places that give discounts to club members. I always base these on permanent things, so barking, dogs never come into it. Also I always give a pat on the back to the wardens, if merited of course but it usually is.  

SteveL replied on 09/07/2019 07:44

Posted on 09/07/2019 07:37 by Cornersteady

Personally, I write a review to give information for future visitors, so approaches, site facilities,  an idea of the site, the size of the pitches,or anything that may affect your stay and what is around it, especially if there are new shops, restaurants, or supermarkets. Also any places that give discounts to club members. I always base these on permanent things, so barking, dogs never come into it. Also I always give a pat on the back to the wardens, if merited of course but it usually is.  

Posted on 09/07/2019 07:44

I would agree with this, but also like to provide information on phone / 4G, at least for the two networks we have. This information is not easily available from other sources, as the coverage maps the networks publish are often grossly misleading.

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Oneputt replied on 09/07/2019 09:03

Posted on 09/07/2019 09:03

What about reviewers who have stepped out of line on site, then deliberately told untruth's about the situation. In the last year I had a conversation with a warden and he outlined 2 occasions where incidents had taken place then the reviewer slammed the wardens and the site in the reviews.

I take more notice of some reviewers than others particularly if it seems someone has 'an axe to grind'

I wonder if we are now experiencing the trip advisor effect, you know the one several hundred good/average reviews then a horrendous one.  I always think that person is on the look out for a freebie    

SteveL replied on 09/07/2019 09:17

Posted on 09/07/2019 09:17

A lot of times a very negative review is the members first post. There is no other activity. To me it just suggests someone who has been upset by something wanting to let of steam. Where as a negative, from a generally positive poster says a lot more.

brue replied on 09/07/2019 09:21

Posted on 08/07/2019 22:18 by DavidKlyne

I think members are invited to comment and rate a campsite/CL they have just stayed at. There are no instructions or suggestions on how that should be approached. It is up to the reader to sift through the reviews for any site in general and make up their minds accordingly. If someone has, in their view, had a bad experience of staying on a site there are no rules to say they can't express those views. Sometimes the same issue comes up time and time again which should flag something up to the Regional Manager for the site involved. It can also flag up where more communication with members is needed.

Personally I think the ability for other members to comment on a review should be removed or reserved for Club staff to comment. Invariably such comments are usually about disagreeing with the original review which is a bit odd as people who add comments have not had the same experience as recounted by the original reviewer which in my view is unfair. I tend to delete comments on reviews unless they actually add information rather than just being critical. 

David

Posted on 09/07/2019 09:21

I agree that we don't need to have access to reviews for our comments (I have added a few myself over the years but I'd be happy not to.) We do have access to report a review. I've used this facility a couple of times. The club responded to one of the reviews which was quite a distressing one about animal neglect, others may have reported the same review. Another review I reported recently was an aggressive tirade about a CL I've used, it didn't read true to form and as far as I know no action has been taken to moderate the review. The club doesn't respond to review reports but I do hope they act or investigate them. In fact it's most important that Club show they are actively engaged in "reviewing" reviews to give members confidence.

I personally think people should be able to write freely in reviews but with guidelines and the much needed advice that the club will be actively looking at reviews, acting appropriately and responding as needed with the guidance that members bring up concerns on site too.  The C&CC pre-moderates reviews and this seems to work whilst leaving complaints about poor facilities etc in place.

The review section on the site details pages needs an advice paragraph before people start their review.

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