Green chemical toilet fluid

Lauren Jade replied on 22/09/2020 20:33

Posted on 22/09/2020 20:33

Has anyone noticed during this years holiday period that more and more campsites are requesting the use of Green chemical toilet fluid or sachets ? I recently stayed at Hidden Valley Park in August this year, and the site insisted you use it, when questioned why, the manager told me he only wanted to empty one septic tank and not two ( one for green and one for blue ) due to the cost of emptying both tanks during the covid outbreak in March and not receiving any revenue from holiday makers because we were all in lockdown, and campsites across the country suffered hugely from this and i respect his honesty in replying to my query. However my real gripe is that the green alternative simply DOES NOT WORK, i appreciate it is better for the enviroment but is no where near the blue fluids capability of breaking down waste and masking smells as we had to use our own facilities as the toilet blocks were closed due to social distancing which i found strange as other campsites managed to social distance on their sites. I hope this is not going to be a trend with campsites in the future where we have to use our own facilities.

JVB66 replied on 22/09/2020 20:54

Posted on 22/09/2020 20:54

I think it is/was formaldehydeas part of the ingredients that is not good for the enviroment and some water companies/waste disposal companies do not allow? 

 Even  Aqua Kem blue no longer has it as part of the chemical make up of their toilet fluid   ,but i am sure some one will be along to explain why some sites do not still want it to be used

nelliethehooker replied on 22/09/2020 20:55

Posted on 22/09/2020 20:55

I've not found that the green fluid is any less successful than the blue, and not noticed it any less effective in masking smells either. You could of course try using the bio pods obtained from stores such as Aldi or Lidl, or of course try emptying the cassette on a more frequent basis.

KjellNN replied on 22/09/2020 21:36

Posted on 22/09/2020 21:36

Yes, I would suggest you try the Aldi or Lidl washing pads.....the bio pods....about £2.50 ish for a box.

Drop one in the cassette and flush  as usual
You will not find any smell.

DSB replied on 22/09/2020 22:43

Posted on 22/09/2020 20:33 by Lauren Jade

Has anyone noticed during this years holiday period that more and more campsites are requesting the use of Green chemical toilet fluid or sachets ? I recently stayed at Hidden Valley Park in August this year, and the site insisted you use it, when questioned why, the manager told me he only wanted to empty one septic tank and not two ( one for green and one for blue ) due to the cost of emptying both tanks during the covid outbreak in March and not receiving any revenue from holiday makers because we were all in lockdown, and campsites across the country suffered hugely from this and i respect his honesty in replying to my query. However my real gripe is that the green alternative simply DOES NOT WORK, i appreciate it is better for the enviroment but is no where near the blue fluids capability of breaking down waste and masking smells as we had to use our own facilities as the toilet blocks were closed due to social distancing which i found strange as other campsites managed to social distance on their sites. I hope this is not going to be a trend with campsites in the future where we have to use our own facilities.

Posted on 22/09/2020 22:43

Hi Lauren.  We also stayed at Hidden Valley in July and I bought some green sachets just for them, but I generally find them less effective!  What did you think of the site?  I felt there were parts of it that looked a little 'run-down'.  The entrance looked quite impressive, but as you drove towards the barrier, it looked a little less impressive and a bit untidy.  Not sure if we would return.... 

David

DavidKlyne replied on 23/09/2020 15:59

Posted on 23/09/2020 15:59

There is an interesting article in this months C&CC magazine about toilet chemicals. Here is the link https://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/magazine/advice-expertise/tech-talk/1647/guide-toilet-chemicals/ but be warned you only get the article headlines unless signed in as a member. The long and the short of it is that assuming a septic tank is used it relies on the  bacteria being broken down by natural means. Whilst the Blue toilet liquids may no longer contain formaldehyde they can contain bactericides which inhibits the natural breakdown within the septic tank. Green tends not to have bactericides.

David

Bakers2 replied on 23/09/2020 16:38

Posted on 23/09/2020 16:38

Before we changed to use bio pods. We always used the organic toilet fluid, couldn't abide the smell of the other. As it came from the bottle - not because of use.

Never had a smell issue with either organic or bio pods. No issue with breakdown either with either.

Takethedogalong replied on 23/09/2020 17:47

Posted on 23/09/2020 17:47

I think perhaps get the green usage dosage right, or simply switch to the bio pods. We haven’t had issues with either to be honest, but tend to stick to using bio pods more. 

As for sites with no facilities, bring it on. We go back to the days of touring without an onboard bathroom, and as far as we are concerned traipsing across a field in the rain at 3am in the morning is only for the daft. As is queuing for a shower. Each to their own of course😉

Lauren Jade replied on 23/09/2020 20:07

Posted on 22/09/2020 22:43 by DSB

Hi Lauren.  We also stayed at Hidden Valley in July and I bought some green sachets just for them, but I generally find them less effective!  What did you think of the site?  I felt there were parts of it that looked a little 'run-down'.  The entrance looked quite impressive, but as you drove towards the barrier, it looked a little less impressive and a bit untidy.  Not sure if we would return.... 

David

Posted on 23/09/2020 20:07

 Hi David,

Absolutely agree with you the entrance is nice but beyond the barrier it is untidy and looks run down. The staff are lazy and unhelpful and the site shop is a joke, in their brochure they state a well stocked shop which wasn't true they had hardly anything in there. The brochure is very misleading about a number of things including the Tarka cycle trail which they say can be accessed near the park but in fact you have to ride nearly 4 miles on a very busy road to get to the start of the trail and i spoke to several campers on site who agreed with me as we were all avid cyclists while on holiday and were hugely disappointed we never rode the trail. I cannot believe this site has acquired a 5 star rating, it is worth 2 and i will definitely not be returning.

Lauren Jade replied on 23/09/2020 20:22

Posted on 23/09/2020 15:59 by DavidKlyne

There is an interesting article in this months C&CC magazine about toilet chemicals. Here is the link https://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/magazine/advice-expertise/tech-talk/1647/guide-toilet-chemicals/ but be warned you only get the article headlines unless signed in as a member. The long and the short of it is that assuming a septic tank is used it relies on the  bacteria being broken down by natural means. Whilst the Blue toilet liquids may no longer contain formaldehyde they can contain bactericides which inhibits the natural breakdown within the septic tank. Green tends not to have bactericides.

David

Posted on 23/09/2020 20:22

Thank you David, very informative but being a long time user of Aqua Kem blue i find it does the job very well and has a lovely fragrance. A lot of replies suggested using bio pods from Aldi or Lidl and i am going to explore this avenue, the saga continues.

Lauren Jade 

dave the rave replied on 23/09/2020 21:31

Posted on 23/09/2020 20:22 by Lauren Jade

Thank you David, very informative but being a long time user of Aqua Kem blue i find it does the job very well and has a lovely fragrance. A lot of replies suggested using bio pods from Aldi or Lidl and i am going to explore this avenue, the saga continues.

Lauren Jade 

Posted on 23/09/2020 21:31

I have found the Elsan organic to be far better than Aquachem version.It breaks down the cassette contents more efficiently and smells an awful lot better.(Of course this is my opinion and I have no connection with any company involved in toilet chemicals)also the Elsan pink rinse does not suffer with the black mildew problem.

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