Help.. Voltage drop on a battery. Problem???

JCL2 replied on 14/10/2020 20:15

Posted on 14/10/2020 20:15

Hi

I'm new to caravanning and have just bought a Bailey caravan. I've not used it yet but am hoping to go away this weekend for our first trip.

I've a new 110 ah leisure battery which I've charged at home before installing in the van. I've noticed that when I turn on the lights inside the van the voltage displayed on the control panel begins to drop. It starts at 12.6v and with all the lights switched on will drop to 12.2 volts within a minute. 

If I turn the lights off and wait a few minutes the voltage climbs back up to 12.6v.

My question is.... should turning just the lights on for a minute cause the voltage to drop this much?  Or should the voltage hold constant at 12.6v for this short duration with just the lights. I didn't think LED lights drew much current?

If I press another button on the control panel it tells me that this means the battery is dropping from 97% to only 30% power. Hence my concern.

Can someone with a little more knowledge and experience confirm this is normal or a potential problem.

Thanks ever so much in advance. It's causing me a little anxiety as I'm not sure if this is normal and from what I understand if this is not normal and I use the battery like this for any reasonable amount of time and completely flatten it I might damage it.

Thanks again 

John

 

 

SteveL replied on 15/10/2020 07:48

Posted on 15/10/2020 07:48

It does not seem that your battery was properly charged in the first place. If it was your display should have been reading 12.8 volts. ( after resting from recharging) Our far from new 110 ah battery would drop from 12.8 to 12.6 after power moving out of storage but then normally recover to 12.7. The gauge in our Bailey wasn't the most accurate though, often giving some very strange readings, so perhaps best to check with a multi meter. You are correct in that LED lights pull very little and should not have that effect. Could be you have been sold  a duff battery. Happened to us once. I bought a battery from the shop at our caravan dealer. 8 months later the van was in for service and their tests showed it was in need of replacement. They replaced it under the battery warranty.

You are also correct that totally flattening a battery will damage it 12.2 volts is any empty / recharge me reading. Going below this is not good for battery longevity. Of course, unless you are intending to use the caravan off grid, when on EHU your vans inbuilt chatter will be running the 12 volt lights, fans pumps etc, as well as charging your battery. Even so you do need to sort out if the battery is OK, particularly if you are going to use a mover, as some will not work once the voltage falls below a certain level.

hitchglitch replied on 15/10/2020 14:09

Posted on 15/10/2020 14:09

Agree with the above, the voltage should not drop this low. After charging, the battery will be over 13 volts but will drop back to about 12.7 volts after the “surface charge” has dissipated - a few hours or short application of a load. Batteries differ slightly and the meter in the van will not be very accurate.

I am assuming that the battery is “sealed” in other words there are no removable plugs for topping up with distilled water. Sealed batteries require a different setting on the charger and, of course, you should use a decent charger with multiple stages.

There is no simple way to test a leisure battery other than to see how long it lasts when being discharged. You can test this on the bench by connecting something like an old car headlamp bulb and calculating the current from the wattage. Not much use if you don’t have a good multimeter though so most people just try it in the van and see what happens.

Rufs replied on 15/10/2020 14:20

Posted on 15/10/2020 14:20

I bought a new battery early last year, did not charge it at all before installing, after install checked it would power the mover ok, which it did, and then left it to do its own thing. my onboard volt meter in the control panel never shows above 12.5v, my hand held shows 12.8v.

JCL2 replied on 19/10/2020 08:16

Posted on 19/10/2020 08:16

Hi

Thanks for all the replies.

Following your advice I've bought a CTEK smart charger and a multi meter. The battery is now being recharged and I'll check it's voltage once the charger has done it's thing.

Thanks

John

dnhb replied on 25/10/2020 19:14

Posted on 25/10/2020 19:14

Good choice in my view. I have a CTEK & have followed the advice to do a full Recondition every year or so. However, as a newbie Campervanner I need to find out if one should take a different approach to charging Leisure batteries than is recommended for car batteries. 

DSB replied on 28/02/2021 22:50

Posted on 19/10/2020 08:16 by JCL2

Hi

Thanks for all the replies.

Following your advice I've bought a CTEK smart charger and a multi meter. The battery is now being recharged and I'll check it's voltage once the charger has done it's thing.

Thanks

John

Posted on 28/02/2021 22:50

The CTEK chargers seem to be very good.  (Mine is a MSX 10).  It does get quite warm in the Bulk stage.  I'm trying to 'recover' a battery at the moment, but I suspect it's too far gone and it could well be time for a new one...

David 

Freedom a whitebox replied on 01/03/2021 09:07

Posted on 01/03/2021 09:07

I would check that the battery terminals are clean and tight. From the description, I would be looking for bad connections, causing high resistance and volt drop.

Marky Marky replied on 24/10/2021 15:13

Posted on 24/10/2021 15:13

John, did you ever get a resolution to your problem.  I am experiencing the exact same in my Coachman 575.  Makes no sense to me.  Voltage drops from 100% to 65% just by putting a LED light on and then back up after.  Connections are tight and battery is new.

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