Smart Metering Trial

KieranBSMM replied on 05/04/2023 16:17

Posted on 05/04/2023 16:17

Exciting News! At Wyatts Covert Club Campsite we’re trialling Smart Metering, which means you will only pay for the amount of electricity you use during your stay.

The price quoted for bookings at this campsite excludes electricity (with campsite fees reduced accordingly) and we will only charge you for the precise amount of electricity you use during your stay.

This is something many members have been asking for and we’re really pleased to be able to trial it this year! Find out more at https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/smartmetering/ 

brue replied on 06/04/2023 13:01

Posted on 06/04/2023 13:01

As so many of us are paying different kwh rates at present it's difficult to work out what rates seem reasonable on site. Maybe by the summer rates will have come down? As you say KJ due to metering there may be increased usage of site facilities which will further increase costs for CAMC. No doubt the meter trials will need a lot of evaluation.

KjellNN replied on 06/04/2023 13:13

Posted on 06/04/2023 13:13

Were pitch prices not adjusted upwards not so long ago, to pay for increased electricity costs?   Some by something like £2.50per night?

We do not use other than the no facs sites these days, so did not pay much attention.

How does that fit with the only  -£1 per night in July?

brue replied on 06/04/2023 13:27

Posted on 06/04/2023 13:27

Kj we are using CAMC main sites much less, possibly only one this year. We are going for CL/CS, C&Cc discounts and other sites. We tend to use our own facs and don't mind going off grid occasionally. I'm not interested in high prices for what are essentially camp sites. If CAMC can keep overall costs down for us the end users I'd be more inclined to consider using the sites but prices seem to be running away this year.

Takethedogalong replied on 06/04/2023 13:30

Posted on 06/04/2023 13:30

There is an  interesting piece of information on this months CL Booking newsletter, around metering and how to conserve energy, keep warm, use less power. I was going to copy and post it, but I note it’s copyrighted, so didn’t want to upset things. It’s all about how some long term vanners changed a few of their touring habits, and little changes they made. Sure some others will have read it as well. 

KjellNN replied on 06/04/2023 13:48

Posted on 06/04/2023 13:27 by brue

Kj we are using CAMC main sites much less, possibly only one this year. We are going for CL/CS, C&Cc discounts and other sites. We tend to use our own facs and don't mind going off grid occasionally. I'm not interested in high prices for what are essentially camp sites. If CAMC can keep overall costs down for us the end users I'd be more inclined to consider using the sites but prices seem to be running away this year.

Posted on 06/04/2023 13:48

Exactly what we are doing too brue, and have been for a couple of years.

Our upcoming trip uses 4 CLs and one CCC site.

At present DD & Co are on an affiliated site outside Ayr, large serviced pitch, £36.50 per night for the 4 of them, which compares very well with current Club site prices.

We will not use any Club main sites this year.

KjellNN replied on 06/04/2023 14:02

Posted on 06/04/2023 14:02

Just checked nearby Ayr Craigie Gardens, for them it would be £41.90 per night today, no serviced pitches, tired facilities block, miserable toddler only play area, and the pitches are not as generous.

replied on 06/04/2023 14:30

Posted on 06/04/2023 10:09 by SteveL

Trouble is, if they are using historical data and have not weighted it for recent electricity price changes, those figures will be on the low side. Last year I might have got enough electric for my £1 but this year no chance. Even the £2 reduction in August would be touch and go and as I said we don’t use much at all in Summer. Add in a few cups of tea boiled with an electric kettle and toast for breakfast and you have no chance, even at domestic rates.

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Tinwheeler replied on 06/04/2023 14:32

Posted on 06/04/2023 14:30 by

Unless they have a remarkable crystal ball they are bound to be using historical data.

Posted on 06/04/2023 14:32

For usage, yes, but they’ll know the present day price.

DavidKlyne replied on 06/04/2023 15:37

Posted on 06/04/2023 11:17 by Hja

I am still trying to get my head round this. My experience of metered pitches has been via meter readings at start and end of stay, so this is very different.

If I understand correctly, any one staying at the sites in question has two choices, no hook up or download an app. Are the club confident that everyone likely to want electricity has a device on which to download an app? I could download one on to my I pad, but not my phone which I rarely use. My partner would really struggle, he uses his phone less than I do. Both of us are well used to technology but desk top computers and my I pad.

I am not sure how money is transferred onto the app. Very definitely not everyone uses internet banking. Initially at least I would expect people would want to keep checking the app to ensure they are not going to run out of electricity, and top up as necessary. Again, are the club convinced that all visitors use the internet whilst on site? I know a lot do, but all? I would also think that many would be cautious bout using the club internet for transferring money.

I know someone will say that people should just embrace modern technology, but everyone sees any need to do so. And I don’t think paying for electricity via an app on club Wi-Fi would be a good introduction!

Posted on 06/04/2023 15:37

Hja

I am not sure it will be by an App on a Smartphone or tablet, we will have to wait for that to be confirmed? They mention Smart Metering which suggests an App but it looks as if you have to log on to a website in order to set everything up? I am sure this will put an extra burden on site staff initially as those less familiar with computer systems could struggle a bit. For the likes TDA who take their unit off site on a daily basis a Smartphone App would probably be more convenient than a website. I am just glad that it is something that can be controlled by the user rather than having to go through site reception which could be inconvenient. Both sites are quite near to where we live so I might stay on one of them for a couple of days just to test the system out.

David

Goldie146 replied on 06/04/2023 16:27

Posted on 06/04/2023 16:27

I think it was mentioned in the Magazine that they were trialling two different  systems, so when the other one comes on line it may suit some who seem cautious about this one. And it is only  a trial! Not yet set in stone.

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