Smart Metering Trial

KieranBSMM replied on 05/04/2023 16:17

Posted on 05/04/2023 16:17

Exciting News! At Wyatts Covert Club Campsite we’re trialling Smart Metering, which means you will only pay for the amount of electricity you use during your stay.

The price quoted for bookings at this campsite excludes electricity (with campsite fees reduced accordingly) and we will only charge you for the precise amount of electricity you use during your stay.

This is something many members have been asking for and we’re really pleased to be able to trial it this year! Find out more at https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/smartmetering/ 

SteveL replied on 07/04/2023 12:46

Posted on 07/04/2023 11:11 by brue

 If, as has been suggested, some will make more use of site facilities to avoud meter charges, the overall site running costs as a consequence will  be back on an upwards spiral. It would have been interesting to see trials on a non facility site too as a comparison.

Posted on 07/04/2023 12:46

That’s a strange way of putting it. Surely the cost you pay includes for use of the facilities by all those staying on site. The way to encourage those who use their own facilities to continue to do so, would be to set realistic discounts. Our domestic rate is still pre price rise until November and even at that it would cost more than £1 a day in summer.

DavidKlyne replied on 07/04/2023 12:55

Posted on 07/04/2023 12:55

There can't be anyone in the country, whether they camp or not, who is not well aware of the massive rise in electricity prices, over the past year. Perhaps this fact might mean that metering is a more acceptable way of doing things than just lumping all site costs together? It might be a rude awakening for those that don't pay much attention to how much they use but it will sharpen the mind to overall use. When we were last in German in 2016 we stayed at a site which had metering and the Kwh charge was 80 euro cents a unit (heaven knows what it is now!) so anything the Club charge will be good value in comparison!

David

brue replied on 07/04/2023 12:59

Posted on 07/04/2023 12:59

I didn't think it was strange Steve, it was a logical train of thought if CAMC wants to reduce energy costs as you say the discount needs to be an incentive. 

There are all sorts of scenarios, eg some CLs have metering and facilities with a charge too. What is the best way to reduce energy costs which push up sites costs amongst all the other rising costs too. Why are some sites now so expensive? It's difficult to gauge, I don't envy the work needed to see how this can be resolved and improved! 

Takethedogalong replied on 07/04/2023 13:44

Posted on 07/04/2023 13:44

Those on site swimming pools will be causing some discussion I am guessing, they will use some energy to heat the water.

Tammygirl replied on 07/04/2023 15:40

Posted on 07/04/2023 12:59 by brue

I didn't think it was strange Steve, it was a logical train of thought if CAMC wants to reduce energy costs as you say the discount needs to be an incentive. 

There are all sorts of scenarios, eg some CLs have metering and facilities with a charge too. What is the best way to reduce energy costs which push up sites costs amongst all the other rising costs too. Why are some sites now so expensive? It's difficult to gauge, I don't envy the work needed to see how this can be resolved and improved! 

Posted on 07/04/2023 15:40

I don't think it strange either brue, in fact I think it would have been a good idea, as you would get a more accurate idea of how much some folk use.

With a facility site folk don't have to heat water at all, I know we don't bother to. On a non facility site we do have yo so yes it would give a more accurate idea of usage. 

Out of interest will the club be able to 'see' just how much some folk use? I know from past experience of metered sites some folk get a very nasty surprise when they go to pay at the end of their stay. 

GEandGJE replied on 07/04/2023 17:05

Posted on 07/04/2023 15:40 by Tammygirl

I don't think it strange either brue, in fact I think it would have been a good idea, as you would get a more accurate idea of how much some folk use.

With a facility site folk don't have to heat water at all, I know we don't bother to. On a non facility site we do have yo so yes it would give a more accurate idea of usage. 

Out of interest will the club be able to 'see' just how much some folk use? I know from past experience of metered sites some folk get a very nasty surprise when they go to pay at the end of their stay. 

Posted on 07/04/2023 17:05

From the way I have read the information from the club, the surprise bill at the end of your stay will be avoided. You prepay on the App and you can monitor your usage on the App and if you run out of money the power is cut off. So you are completely in control of how much you use and how much you spend.

Bakers2 replied on 07/04/2023 17:08

Posted on 07/04/2023 17:08

It won't effect us but I have to say a reduction of £1 wouldn't entice us to book a pitch. We've happily done off grid and used our own facilities. On site we might us the showers and loos but never the wash up area. It would need to be a greater discount unless the site was within walking distance of somewhere we wanted to visit to tempt us.

Bakers2 replied on 07/04/2023 17:10

Posted on 07/04/2023 17:05 by GEandGJE

From the way I have read the information from the club, the surprise bill at the end of your stay will be avoided. You prepay on the App and you can monitor your usage on the App and if you run out of money the power is cut off. So you are completely in control of how much you use and how much you spend.

Posted on 07/04/2023 17:10

Fair point. But will folk upload enough first off? I think that will be the surprise they receive.

KjellNN replied on 07/04/2023 20:04

Posted on 07/04/2023 15:40 by Tammygirl

I don't think it strange either brue, in fact I think it would have been a good idea, as you would get a more accurate idea of how much some folk use.

With a facility site folk don't have to heat water at all, I know we don't bother to. On a non facility site we do have yo so yes it would give a more accurate idea of usage. 

Out of interest will the club be able to 'see' just how much some folk use? I know from past experience of metered sites some folk get a very nasty surprise when they go to pay at the end of their stay. 

Posted on 07/04/2023 20:04

We all do what  suits us best......at present.

We never usually use the washing up area, other than to empty and rinse out our cafetière, or possibly the BBQ plate.  Why take dishes away to wash when we can wash them in the van?

As to showers etc, as OH has special needs,  it is  much easier for her to use our excellent on board facilities than to traipse to the disabled room with all her stuff, especially if it is raining!     I can go to the block, but again, if it is wet, much easier to use  our own shower, I do not mind fetching and disposing of water. 

So we do prefer to heat water and use our own facilities, rather than use the facilities block, which it seems would  cost us a lot on a metered site, with apparently very little allowance for doing so.

Tammygirl replied on 07/04/2023 21:09

Posted on 07/04/2023 20:04 by KjellNN

We all do what  suits us best......at present.

We never usually use the washing up area, other than to empty and rinse out our cafetière, or possibly the BBQ plate.  Why take dishes away to wash when we can wash them in the van?

As to showers etc, as OH has special needs,  it is  much easier for her to use our excellent on board facilities than to traipse to the disabled room with all her stuff, especially if it is raining!     I can go to the block, but again, if it is wet, much easier to use  our own shower, I do not mind fetching and disposing of water. 

So we do prefer to heat water and use our own facilities, rather than use the facilities block, which it seems would  cost us a lot on a metered site, with apparently very little allowance for doing so.

Posted on 07/04/2023 21:09

Exactly, on a facility site you find a mix of the way folk do things but on a non facility site everyone has to heat water for dishes and showers. Of course this can be done using gas but I'd hazard a guess that the majority currently use electric. This of course could change if meters become the norm. 

I agree with you Baker's, a £1 discount isn't enough to tempt me back to full club sites. CLs and non facility sites or C&CC for us this year in the UK. 

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