Coronavirus Discussion

RowenaBCAMC replied on 09/06/2020 11:59

Posted on 09/06/2020 11:59

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replied on 10/06/2020 14:08

Posted on 10/06/2020 13:40 by JVB66

They tried employing a cleaners at Hillhead, but unless things have changed there  were more times that the site staff were also with them ,   as it was found to be not cost effective,for the lower standard that was employed, and there was not any sense of pride that is found when club staff carry out the work

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DavidKlyne replied on 10/06/2020 14:52

Posted on 10/06/2020 14:52

Having worked in a company that decided to change from in house cleaning to contract cleaning I am inclined to agree with JVB. Whilst, at it's best, the contract cleaning might well be done to an acceptable level it was never as good as achieved by the in house cleaners. There was also greater flexibility which tends to go out of the window when you contract such services out. If the wardens have to spend more time supervising they may as well do the job themselves. Not sure that it is a wardens job to supervise others and if you have to bring in Club management it rather defeats the purpose. On larger sites it might be better to directly employ a cleaner/s as part of the warden team rather than use contractors. Alternatively bring in an extra warden couple for the peak season. 

David

JVB66 replied on 10/06/2020 15:15

Posted on 10/06/2020 14:08 by

Nowt wrong the standards delivered by the cleaning. ladies where I go, compare very favourably with CAMC facilities that are only cleaned once a day

Posted on 10/06/2020 15:15

Lucky employer but as we have noticed apart from the long siestas there seems to be a diferent work ethic than in the UK when employing staff on minmum wage,as most if not all contractors do in this countries cleaning industry, and without any expences for travel ,to work for a couple of hours?,

And when i was working back in the 1990s before the minimum wage and WTD was introduced it was no better ,

And as for "many" companies they all normally rely on "casual labour" to fullfill their contracts which is very noticeable with diferent staff that are supplied,who need "supervision" when on site which if lucky,  at times may be a member (if availble?)of the contractors staff

 

replied on 10/06/2020 15:41

Posted on 10/06/2020 14:52 by DavidKlyne

Having worked in a company that decided to change from in house cleaning to contract cleaning I am inclined to agree with JVB. Whilst, at it's best, the contract cleaning might well be done to an acceptable level it was never as good as achieved by the in house cleaners. There was also greater flexibility which tends to go out of the window when you contract such services out. If the wardens have to spend more time supervising they may as well do the job themselves. Not sure that it is a wardens job to supervise others and if you have to bring in Club management it rather defeats the purpose. On larger sites it might be better to directly employ a cleaner/s as part of the warden team rather than use contractors. Alternatively bring in an extra warden couple for the peak season. 

David

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cabbiemick replied on 10/06/2020 17:00

Posted on 10/06/2020 17:00

i do think the time is nearing were the cure will be worst then the disease i think we will all have to learn to live with covid 19 until a cure is found 

JVB66 replied on 10/06/2020 18:46

Posted on 10/06/2020 15:41 by

David

The cleaning staff at sites where we have tended to spend longer periods are I assume "in house"   as we are seeing the same individuals for several years and that's not generally the case with contract cleaners. However I totally agree with the view that standards will slip if contracts are let to the cheapest tender

Posted on 10/06/2020 18:46

I dought the site staff who will have a direct imput, would accept any contract because it was the cheapest,,but as it is well known any company will say they will promise  allsorts to get contracts , as I would think you have found in your senior position before as me , retired earlywink

Takethedogalong replied on 10/06/2020 19:37

Posted on 10/06/2020 19:37

Wherenext, we are doing a lot of thinking. We have two shielders, one in each household, so we haven’t even achieved being in our respective homes together yet, let alone a holiday cottage. So it won’t be anything imminent for us, certainly not until daily case rate is much lower. At the moment we have got as far as thinking not too far away (so no overnight B&B stop.) Travel distance of around 3 hours would give us plenty to aim at, but I have to say there are places we have used before, with an excellent cleanliness record, that we will consider first. We have never been big users of cottage booking agencies, prefer to liaise direct with owners. We would liaise with the owners as much as possible, trust them to be honest with us about past visitors, in return giving our own health assurances. We would take cleaning stuff ourselves and do some of our own cleaning when we get there. We usually take two vehicles anyway, but if one of those was MH, then this would give us a mobile cafe, rest area and private loo for all of us. It’s also about what things we do as well when away. OH and I are keen outdoor types, walking, cycling, climbing round ruins can fill our day. But Mum and Sis are totally different, they like to browse nice shops, walk the streets of towns. Mum can only walk so far as well. So it's very much about what can we do and enjoy once we get away. We like to have lunch out, but that’s going to be risky,🤷‍♀️ We coped fine back in March up in Dales, took a picnic out, there were no cases recorded where we were staying so we did do a bit of shopping, visited one of two quiet museums, but only ate out once, after some research.

A lot to think about for us at the moment. 🤔😁

SteveL replied on 17/06/2020 09:42

Posted on 17/06/2020 09:42

Rather liked this, sent to me by my son who runs a restaurant / bar.

The degree of social distancing is it going to be 1m or 2m is certainly high on his agenda at the moment.

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