Swift Caravan Panoramic Window

agfox replied on 19/09/2018 14:08

Posted on 19/09/2018 14:08

Can a Panoramic Window actually be classed as a window when it forms part of the caravans rigid structure and is secured to prevent water ingress?

The Panoramic window on my May 2015 Besscarr 580 split through both sides of the panel in July 2018 after travelling to a CMC site in Wales. (3yrs 2mths old).

My dealer (Couplands), using the photos I provided contacted Swift regarding making a warranty repair. Eventually Swift declined any warranty claim or responsibility. After contacting Swift directly myself, I was informed that Windows only have a 3yr Warranty and as my van was now 3yrs 2mths old it was not covered. I argue that the Panoramic window is part of the body structure as it forms part of the seal against water ingress and as such should be covered by the 7yr body shell warranty.

No one has actually inspected the damage to determine the cause, but it is definitely not caused by impact damage and in my opinion is a stress fracture possibly caused by movement / twisting of the body shell. This may have been brought on by a warranty modification carried out to the Panoramic window after the 1st service.

I have found on various social media sites that I am not the only person with this problem and vans older than mine have been repaired under warranty, usually after a lot of complaining. It also makes me wonder why the 2019 models state that the Panoramic window has been changed.

To get the damage repaired I am having to go through an insurance claim procedure which requires  2 quotes. I am puzzled and suspicious that Swift will not supply a replacement window to my local Swift Authorised repair & service centre and have informed them that Swift will only supply the panel to a Main Dealership.

I have always owned Swift caravans and have generally only had  minor problems but I will be looking for an alternative manufacturer when I  next change my caravan.

 

JVB66 replied on 06/09/2021 17:50

Posted on 06/09/2021 17:50

Why is it that so many of the of the fixtures and fittings in nearly all UK made LVs are imported from it seems,  mainland Europe ? But it seems as if the UK market is recieving seconds.  rather than what is fitted to LVs made over there,?undecided

Tinwheeler replied on 06/09/2021 17:58

Posted on 06/09/2021 17:50 by JVB66

Why is it that so many of the of the fixtures and fittings in nearly all UK made LVs are imported from it seems,  mainland Europe ? But it seems as if the UK market is recieving seconds.  rather than what is fitted to LVs made over there,?undecided

Posted on 06/09/2021 17:58

That's sounds rather speculative. Any evidence?

JVB66 replied on 06/09/2021 18:10

Posted on 06/09/2021 17:58 by Tinwheeler

That's sounds rather speculative. Any evidence?

Posted on 06/09/2021 18:10

Answer me this?  the same parts as made in many European countries as fitted to LVs put together over there seems do not receive complaints as here,  or is it accepted in mainland Europe without complaining undecided. ?

Tinwheeler replied on 06/09/2021 18:39

Posted on 06/09/2021 18:10 by JVB66

Answer me this?  the same parts as made in many European countries as fitted to LVs put together over there seems do not receive complaints as here,  or is it accepted in mainland Europe without complaining undecided. ?

Posted on 06/09/2021 18:39

Answer what?

I ask again, what evidence is there or is it simply, as Rocky would say, "Frank down the pub". If you make such a sweeping statement, you must surely be able to back it up with something more substantial than a few unassigned words🤷🏻‍♂️.

JVB66 replied on 06/09/2021 19:09

Posted on 06/09/2021 18:39 by Tinwheeler

Answer what?

I ask again, what evidence is there or is it simply, as Rocky would say, "Frank down the pub". If you make such a sweeping statement, you must surely be able to back it up with something more substantial than a few unassigned words🤷🏻‍♂️.

Posted on 06/09/2021 19:09

I  give up ,if you are so head in the sandyell

Tinwheeler replied on 06/09/2021 19:17

Posted on 06/09/2021 19:09 by JVB66

I  give up ,if you are so head in the sandyell

Posted on 06/09/2021 19:17

No, JV, you are side stepping my question.

Let's put it another way. What evidence is there that the UK receives 'seconds'? How do you know, for instance, that the panoramic windows used in the UK aren't made to a UK spec which is perhaps flimsier than others in order to keep weight down? 

OK, I know you can’t answer as you just repeated hearsay but I leave you to ponder alternative reasons.

JVB66 replied on 06/09/2021 19:28

Posted on 06/09/2021 19:17 by Tinwheeler

No, JV, you are side stepping my question.

Let's put it another way. What evidence is there that the UK receives 'seconds'? How do you know, for instance, that the panoramic windows used in the UK aren't made to a UK spec which is perhaps flimsier than others in order to keep weight down? 

OK, I know you can’t answer as you just repeated hearsay but I leave you to ponder alternative reasons.

Posted on 06/09/2021 19:28

No nead unless you can give a different reason? But like most of your very dubious questions? They are more trying to get , as happens when you post to others in the same way, an effort to make you seem as if you would know an answer.undecided

Tinwheeler replied on 06/09/2021 19:32

Posted on 06/09/2021 19:28 by JVB66

No nead unless you can give a different reason? But like most of your very dubious questions? They are more trying to get , as happens when you post to others in the same way, an effort to make you seem as if you would know an answer.undecided

Posted on 06/09/2021 19:32

So you still refuse to answer.🤷🏻‍♂️

I give up🏳️

replied on 06/09/2021 20:17

Posted on 06/09/2021 19:32 by Tinwheeler

So you still refuse to answer.🤷🏻‍♂️

I give up🏳️

Posted on 06/09/2021 20:17

Amen to that

Tinwheeler replied on 06/09/2021 20:23

Posted on 06/09/2021 20:17 by

Amen to that

Posted on 06/09/2021 20:23

Yes, Easy, I should have known better than to expect a sensible and factual reply. I see you understand👍🏻

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