Non EHU & enforced EHU

GarryP replied on 19/06/2017 15:46

Posted on 19/06/2017 15:46

The Sandringham National was EHU take it or leave it, I have spoken with several of my centre ralliers, and about 50% said they would have liked a choice, as most ralliers are geared up for off grid, many vans now come with solar panels, I for one would have preferred non EHU, certainly didn't use £ 5 worth of electric a day with only a 6 amp supply.

There were certainly not enough pitches this year, I heard several people complaining before and after the rally that they could not get a place, and walking around the site there appeared to be many unsused area, so I can only assume that the rally was setup around the available electric points and generators etc.

Could someone from the club confirm if all future nationals are going to be EHU only, and why this will be so, I personally consider this a bacwards step.

trellis replied on 25/06/2017 11:32

Posted on 25/06/2017 11:32

The club seem quite happy to accept advertising in the monthly mag from solar power companies ,and it wouldn't surprise me to find that similar companies were trading their wares at the National.Stange then that the club don't offer members the chance to use such kit .Yet another money spinner from the management.

Firedragon replied on 27/06/2017 09:23

Posted on 27/06/2017 09:23

I give up, so the club should not accept advertising from solar companies if it is going to offer ehus at the National ? surprised

Electricity has to be put in for the National to be able to put on everything that it does now, so why not put it in for the members too, yes, a few don't want it and are very vocal here (but still no more than a minute number of those attending) and I suspect this is not a protest about power at all - rather it is in the hope of getting a reduction in the cost. The National is a fixed fee event and has actually come DOWN in price of late, yet some people will still complain, makes me wonder why they actually want to come if it is still too expensive!

Alison

brue replied on 27/06/2017 10:47

Posted on 27/06/2017 10:47

Oh Alison really,   we would indeed like to pay less having invested in solar panels, why do we need old technology? Anyway we can surely talk about it on here, I've no idea how many feel the same elsewhere. I see you are looking for a cheaper CL, some of us would like a cheaper national. wink

The venue sounds good next year and maybe more will be able to go? smile

 

Fozzie replied on 27/06/2017 13:31

Posted on 27/06/2017 13:31

Alison,yes i can see why you are fed up with some of the posts on here,but when GaryP (OP) first opened this thread I was in aggreement with him.Us normal ralliers do not know who sets the number of pitches available,we do not know the ins and outs of who decides what,there was a suspicion that the numbers of available pitches was reduced because of EHU hence why it sold out so quickly.I am still not sure what the total number of units for this National.

One thing springs to mind and seeing how popular this National was, and with EHU being so readily available now, I hope the Club have not set yet another booking frenzy day.

Mick

Boff replied on 27/06/2017 14:06

Posted on 27/06/2017 09:23 by Firedragon

I give up, so the club should not accept advertising from solar companies if it is going to offer ehus at the National ? surprised

Electricity has to be put in for the National to be able to put on everything that it does now, so why not put it in for the members too, yes, a few don't want it and are very vocal here (but still no more than a minute number of those attending) and I suspect this is not a protest about power at all - rather it is in the hope of getting a reduction in the cost. The National is a fixed fee event and has actually come DOWN in price of late, yet some people will still complain, makes me wonder why they actually want to come if it is still too expensive!

Alison

Posted on 27/06/2017 14:06

How do you know it is only a minute number? Was a secret consultation done?

The National is a fixed fee, that was true but only for this year. Previously as you must know ehu has been charged extra so not a fixed fee?

Anybody with an ounce of sense can see it is much easier and cheaper to put electricity into a small area for the arenas and the VIP dining areas.  Rather than the whole site.  

Naturally the club has been very coy about the number of units  in attendance, I have heard the figure of 1400 quoted, which is very substantially less than previous years   Perhaps someone would publish the number for the last 5 nationals  so we can compare  

Cost, for me it doesn't represent value for money for me, but everyone else can come to their own conclusions but I would say don't knock it until you have tried it   

Finally Alison,

Not a single post on this thread has said that there shouldn't be Ehu's at the national   So my question to you is what have you got against those who are capable of going 4 days without Ehu and why do you think it is acceptable not offer that as an option?

 

trellis replied on 27/06/2017 19:04

Posted on 27/06/2017 09:23 by Firedragon

I give up, so the club should not accept advertising from solar companies if it is going to offer ehus at the National ? surprised

Electricity has to be put in for the National to be able to put on everything that it does now, so why not put it in for the members too, yes, a few don't want it and are very vocal here (but still no more than a minute number of those attending) and I suspect this is not a protest about power at all - rather it is in the hope of getting a reduction in the cost. The National is a fixed fee event and has actually come DOWN in price of late, yet some people will still complain, makes me wonder why they actually want to come if it is still too expensive!

Alison

Posted on 27/06/2017 19:04

Do you actually read the posts you criticise ?. Nowhere did I say the club shouldn't accept advertising if offering ehu at the National. Could you tell me if there were any companies selling solar equipment there??.

compass362 replied on 27/06/2017 19:30

Posted on 27/06/2017 19:30

Members please .....it's pointless arguing  the facts  , you should all know what's on offer reference services provided before you BOOK.

Then you choose to go .....or you don't , is it really that complicated 😇

GarryP replied on 28/06/2017 00:07

Posted on 28/06/2017 00:07

If we don't pose the questions, then how are we to judge the feedback, I have been attending nationals since 1987 and this is the 1st with no choice of nonEHU or EHU, hence the question 'are all future nationals going to be the same', the answer could well decide if we attend again.

What with my local site closing suddenly this year, (very badly managed, with more wasted money), a vast sum of wasted money on rebranding and putting the price up for the NCCR by £25 for EHU that some off us don't want or need, then perhaps there are some of us who feel the need to ask questions of which way the club is going ?

If we don't speak up, then the decision makers can just carry on thinking they have got it right every time.

As I have seen no results from NCCR surveys, who is listening ?

compass362 replied on 28/06/2017 08:32

Posted on 28/06/2017 00:07 by GarryP

If we don't pose the questions, then how are we to judge the feedback, I have been attending nationals since 1987 and this is the 1st with no choice of nonEHU or EHU, hence the question 'are all future nationals going to be the same', the answer could well decide if we attend again.

What with my local site closing suddenly this year, (very badly managed, with more wasted money), a vast sum of wasted money on rebranding and putting the price up for the NCCR by £25 for EHU that some off us don't want or need, then perhaps there are some of us who feel the need to ask questions of which way the club is going ?

If we don't speak up, then the decision makers can just carry on thinking they have got it right every time.

As I have seen no results from NCCR surveys, who is listening ?

Posted on 28/06/2017 08:32

Regardless of ANY answer.... it will still be your decision to attend or not .......won't it . 😇

 

brue replied on 28/06/2017 08:44

Posted on 28/06/2017 08:32 by compass362

Regardless of ANY answer.... it will still be your decision to attend or not .......won't it . 😇

 

Posted on 28/06/2017 08:44

Whether people attend or not, a  polite question has been put forward and hearing the official answer would be good. So would a choice cost wise.

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