Commercial Benefits of Motorhome Towns - Campaign

JohnKeane replied on 14/08/2019 12:35

Posted on 14/08/2019 12:35

Throughout the continent towns and villages go out of their way to attract and provide facilities for Motorhome visitors, I'm sure they see the benefit of say 10 motorhomes staying overnight, typically 20 people, if only 50% eat out each night that is still 10 covers at £25 per head etc. soon mounts up over the year, not to mention use of local supermarkets, shops and museums etc.

In the UK we are seeing ever more restrictions imposed, height barriers, no over night parking etc. with only a few towns providing facilities. Negative publicity such as accused of littering the area, emptying waste tanks at the side of the road. I'm sure much of which is unjustfied and possibly down none motorhome visitors.

Having said that I agree with some residents concerns, if I lived on the coast at Lythm would I want to see a line of motorhomes blocking my view - almost certainly not.

My question is what is being done to counter this negative view and to encourage local authorities to provide parking and waste facilities.

Not the sort of campaign an individual can run but I would expect the Caravan & Motorhome club to take the lead on this - does it have a publicity officer working on this ?

What are other peoples views ?

BoleroBoy replied on 16/08/2019 13:00

Posted on 16/08/2019 11:09 by Tinwheeler

Whereas we just take the van out each day. Why not, it’s small enough to go just about anywhere and it’s what it’s designed for. 

Posted on 16/08/2019 13:00

..and many do likewise with their PVCs...one of the great advantages of a small van and hence their popularity.

but, equally, there are compromises that some don't want to make and wouldn't be happy with the accommodation that a PVC provides.

small is certainly beautiful in some instances (we do notice how much easier our slimmer van is to drive on our congested roads) but sloping PVC sidewalls impact on space in the upper part of the van and can make it feel noticibly less spacious than a straight walled coachbuilt of a similar 'footprint'.

agreed, parking can be a pain but there are always workarounds as TW shows...

here are a few...

get a small van (as above)

go elsewhere (always a popular suggestion)

use public transport

bring other transport with you (towed car or ebikes or even legs)

not for everyone, I'm sure, but we also 'go out' everyday but can do a 20 mile radius comfortably on our bikes.

keeps us fit, too, and can have a nice pub lunch/drink without worrying about driving back to the site.

when 'touring' we move the van every few days (sometimes after only one night) and 'explore' the area in as much dep before moving to the next stop.

we don't need to travel miles because, if we wanted to explore that area in detail, it would be the next van stop...

totally different to the 'out and back' process used when staying longer term in one spot.

another way for us around the parking issue is to use CL/THS type sites which gets us close to the type of impromptu touring we do 'elsewhere'

pre booking sites for a decent tour at the time of year we are in this country (April-Sept) doesn't do it for us, the 'no booking and pay on departure' style of THS sites suits us better and has a familiar feel to it

yes, parking van be a right pain but folk get around the issues in different ways.

i don't see LAs going overboard to help MHs, especially as the next govt 'tax initiative' is likely to have an impact on sales.

EasyT replied on 16/08/2019 13:06

Posted on 16/08/2019 11:07 by peedee

 Don't think I am in a minority Rufs, I see plenty of motorhomes towing a car when out and about some of them quite small as well.

peedee

Posted on 16/08/2019 13:06

Well in UK those towing a car are a minority.

AnotherDavid replied on 16/08/2019 13:17

Posted on 16/08/2019 13:06 by EasyT

Well in UK those towing a car are a minority.

Posted on 16/08/2019 13:17

I saw one this morning Alan. Caught my eye as I am not that used top seeing A frame towing

MichaelT replied on 16/08/2019 15:33

Posted on 16/08/2019 10:31 by Rufs

youre right though that Germans (and other contis) just don't give a fig and take their vans out most days...after all, it has an engine and they use it that way 'back home'.

yes and as you well know, you can travel for miles in countries such as Spain without seeing another vehicle, or very few, not travelled in Germany, but judging by the number of Germans over wintering in Spain in vlarge MH's there cant be many left in Germany, and as the stats show that i posted, places such as France & Spain are vast compared to the UK and if you steer clear of major cities largely conjestion free, wouldnt relish the thought of meeting one of those large Concord MH's, that are plentyfull in Spain on some of the roads in Devon & Cornwall. Us tuggers have been the butt of lots of jokes re clogging up roads etc for many years, it looks like MH's are now starting to suffer the same fate, but unlike a caravan you just cant park your MH on a site and tour in your car, blame the Government for allowing folk over 55 to raid their pension pots undecided

Posted on 16/08/2019 15:33

blame the Government for allowing folk over 55 to raid their pension pots

Well I am over 55 and still have a pension pot and I am sure I am not in the minority so what is your point? 

Rufs replied on 16/08/2019 15:43

Posted on 16/08/2019 15:33 by MichaelT

blame the Government for allowing folk over 55 to raid their pension pots

Well I am over 55 and still have a pension pot and I am sure I am not in the minority so what is your point? 

Posted on 16/08/2019 15:43

excuse me, where in my post did i imply that people who raided their pension pot did not still have a pension pot. My point is that there are many out there who have raided there pension pot to fund a MH/Caravan or anything else for that matter, but I am sure many still have sufficient funds to provide a pension. My point is that if the rules had not been changed then large amounts of monies would not be available to many for the purchase of such items.  

 

MichaelT replied on 16/08/2019 16:57

Posted on 16/08/2019 15:43 by Rufs

excuse me, where in my post did i imply that people who raided their pension pot did not still have a pension pot. My point is that there are many out there who have raided there pension pot to fund a MH/Caravan or anything else for that matter, but I am sure many still have sufficient funds to provide a pension. My point is that if the rules had not been changed then large amounts of monies would not be available to many for the purchase of such items.  

 

Posted on 16/08/2019 16:57

You certainly implied that, all the new rules have done is bring forward the choice to 55 instead of say 65 when yo can draw 25% tax free so not sure it will have a big impact in the long run apart from some people maybe running short of funds in their dotage and relying on the government for help as there is no incentive to save and have funds as you are then charged for any help you may need bit tha'ts another story I guess.sealed

derekcyril replied on 16/08/2019 18:25

Posted on 16/08/2019 18:25

Love this chat , ime vanner brother m/h .height barriers were put in many years ago to stop you know who parking up and leaving loads of rubbish .. Now they just find private roads and cant be moved until residents have to pay .. i digress ..the large amount of m/h now on road who think they can still drive down country lanes like a car baffles me ..Point about towing small car , wish we could all afford that ..As for parking in towns i this country ,my disco just about fits into parking bay ..M / h are great but surely common sense ..you cant treat it the same as a car ??

JVB66 replied on 16/08/2019 18:32

Posted on 16/08/2019 15:33 by MichaelT

blame the Government for allowing folk over 55 to raid their pension pots

Well I am over 55 and still have a pension pot and I am sure I am not in the minority so what is your point? 

Posted on 16/08/2019 18:32

As I posted elsewhere that is what a motor caravan quoted to me that the majority of new motor caravans are being financed by pension pots and equity release on property

JVB66 replied on 16/08/2019 18:38

Posted on 16/08/2019 13:06 by EasyT

Well in UK those towing a car are a minority.

Posted on 16/08/2019 18:38

There is one a frame towed car on here but there are numerous add cars that the OH/partner follows the motor caravan to site,undecided

Rufs replied on 17/08/2019 08:39

Posted on 17/08/2019 08:39

As for parking in towns i this country ,my disco just about fits into parking bay ..M / h are great but surely common sense ..you cant treat it the same as a car ??

so very true but my observations lead me to believe that quite a few motor home owners, lets say of the older generation, have probably never driven anything bigger than a family car, and treat their new  MH as it is just that, you would not believe the number that ignore the 6'6" width restriction on our local Tichfield road, and the number that park facing the sea with their posterior hanging out into the carriage way, maybe the club should have MH driving courses in the same way they do caravans.laughing