Is it a rip off?

dogsandhinnies replied on 08/04/2019 20:12

Posted on 08/04/2019 20:12

Hi I have a rant to get off my chest

Just booked a site for 21 nights for an eye watering £540!   After I got back on my feet I was informed that Caravan and Motor home club have increased their Easter fees this week two weeks early.  Why I ask. even the management were embarrassed and thought it were shocking. 

 I spent 5 nights last week on a fabulous caravan and camping club site in heart of Northumberland with all the facilities and with over 60s discount £8 pn!

After only just re-joining I cannot  see the benefits of staying with  C&M club prices are beyond out reach.

 

 

 

compass362 replied on 23/04/2019 08:22

Posted on 08/04/2019 20:36 by huskydog

It's only a rip off ,if you are forced to buy the product , the OP is not forced to buy the product cool

Posted on 23/04/2019 08:22

No member is forced to use this club's sites , the fact that the prices are regarded as high by some members can only encourage others to look at alternative pitch providers.

We had booked 2 club sites for a summer tour of Yorkshire then on to the Lakes , but having a look on tinter net discovered a wonderful CS site at roughly half the price of Wharfedale & then an independent small site in the Lakes at lower cost both are now booked & the CMC sites cancelled.

Location will always dictate our site choice but there is a vast amount of pitch availability out there to suit all pockets ,  we all have the option to choose....... which as got to be good for everyone. 

SteveL replied on 23/04/2019 09:57

Posted on 23/04/2019 06:51 by

Many don't caravan before April, often mid April and finish come October. We do the same except for about 15 nights in December. Obviously working folk with children tend to be using sites in the week only during school hols and those without still want to use there leave in better weather. I can't see Mid Week Discounts having much effect on that pattern.

Posted on 23/04/2019 09:57

Possibly the case out of season ET. However, in peak summer holiday some sort of discount mid week might fill a few more spaces at less popular sites.

As I put above, Bridlington was at most two thirds full mid week, during one of the best summers we have had for years. Yet another 5% rise (based on two adults) for peak 2020 surely cannot be the way to address the lack of bookings.

OK at York Rowntree where the increase is 8% it will work. It is a very popular site and they could probably gone for a larger increase, or further extending peaks, without any loss of bookings. 

DavidKlyne replied on 23/04/2019 11:31

Posted on 23/04/2019 09:57 by SteveL

Possibly the case out of season ET. However, in peak summer holiday some sort of discount mid week might fill a few more spaces at less popular sites.

As I put above, Bridlington was at most two thirds full mid week, during one of the best summers we have had for years. Yet another 5% rise (based on two adults) for peak 2020 surely cannot be the way to address the lack of bookings.

OK at York Rowntree where the increase is 8% it will work. It is a very popular site and they could probably gone for a larger increase, or further extending peaks, without any loss of bookings. 

Posted on 23/04/2019 11:31

Steve

We found that with Bridlington two years ago. £32 a night during the second week of July. We moved onto Poolsbrook where we were charged £23 a night. I appreciate that Bridlington may well command a premium over Poolsbrook because of its location but £9 a night seems a bit OTT. I think here in England we sometimes forget that the Scottish school holidays start earlier and that is the only explanation I can think of to justify the price being so high? We liked the Bridlington site and will hopefully go back but we will be inclined to look at the slightly cheaper times of year.

David

SteveL replied on 23/04/2019 12:21

Posted on 23/04/2019 11:31 by DavidKlyne

Steve

We found that with Bridlington two years ago. £32 a night during the second week of July. We moved onto Poolsbrook where we were charged £23 a night. I appreciate that Bridlington may well command a premium over Poolsbrook because of its location but £9 a night seems a bit OTT. I think here in England we sometimes forget that the Scottish school holidays start earlier and that is the only explanation I can think of to justify the price being so high? We liked the Bridlington site and will hopefully go back but we will be inclined to look at the slightly cheaper times of year.

David

Posted on 23/04/2019 12:21

David

It's the same with Hawes, which is a very popular site. OK not the seaside but £3 cheaper at £32.50. It has also had a revamp like Brid and the percentage increase for 2020 peak is less. There seems to be no logic in how prices are set, at least from my perspective.

redface replied on 23/04/2019 13:22

Posted on 23/04/2019 13:22

NTH, Yes I would recommend it provided you accept that the facilities on offer are not quite up to club's super standard (toilet block basic, showers 50p a time, no roof over the washing up sinks) It is one field of 4 acres, has EHU in the price.

If you are  a member of the other club  its listed on p385 under Henfield X10 but site is actually in Small Dole. Is called 'Farmhouse Caravan & Camping Site', see it on the internet.

Plenty of walking available on the south downs, notably the South Downs Way

vbfg replied on 24/04/2019 05:29

Posted on 09/04/2019 09:56 by JVB66

We were in conversation in the men only area last night (dish wash room)and it included site prices, the consensus was that us oldies do not seem to realise how costs in all areas have increased since retiring also how much saleries have increased,the two younger men thought that what they were paying per night here including their children now on school holidays was very favourable and were quite happy with what it was costing 

Min wage is now £9.20 an hour £368 per 40 hrs 

Posted on 24/04/2019 05:29

No it isn't, it's £8,21 p/h and if you work in an office which is open 9-5 and have an hour for lunch, as many do, then your working hours are 35.

Cornersteady replied on 24/04/2019 11:20

Posted on 23/04/2019 12:21 by SteveL

David

It's the same with Hawes, which is a very popular site. OK not the seaside but £3 cheaper at £32.50. It has also had a revamp like Brid and the percentage increase for 2020 peak is less. There seems to be no logic in how prices are set, at least from my perspective.

Posted on 24/04/2019 11:20

Not from our view perhaps but I've just done a quick calculation on my phone here while waiting, say a 100 pitch site at £30 per night running at 60% full puts up its prices by 16.6%. Even if the bookings drop by 16.6% the overall loss is only £50. If the the loss is 10% of bookings the profit is £90. The break even point is about 13% loss of bookings.

So maybe this sort of calculation is taken into account when putting up what prices on which site?   

replied on 24/04/2019 11:42

Posted on 24/04/2019 11:20 by Cornersteady

Not from our view perhaps but I've just done a quick calculation on my phone here while waiting, say a 100 pitch site at £30 per night running at 60% full puts up its prices by 16.6%. Even if the bookings drop by 16.6% the overall loss is only £50. If the the loss is 10% of bookings the profit is £90. The break even point is about 13% loss of bookings.

So maybe this sort of calculation is taken into account when putting up what prices on which site?   

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brue replied on 24/04/2019 12:26

Posted on 24/04/2019 11:20 by Cornersteady

Not from our view perhaps but I've just done a quick calculation on my phone here while waiting, say a 100 pitch site at £30 per night running at 60% full puts up its prices by 16.6%. Even if the bookings drop by 16.6% the overall loss is only £50. If the the loss is 10% of bookings the profit is £90. The break even point is about 13% loss of bookings.

So maybe this sort of calculation is taken into account when putting up what prices on which site?   

Posted on 24/04/2019 12:26

Steve quoted Bridlington v Hawes. Bridlington was a new site and purchase costs have to factored in to the profit and loss, it has also seen further expansion since the original purchase and re-development.

 

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