There is a lot of very unhappy club members

sparky100 replied on 03/03/2017 07:06

Posted on 03/03/2017 07:06

There is a lot of very unhappy members I realy do feel as my young family do feel the the board are so cut off from its own younger  memembers and I all so feel thay need to stop what thay are doing to day be fore thay go it to a board meeting and think hard what thay have done and to try and make the members come together  again as we are not as one  club wich is sad but I still hope it will change  and we will all be as one 

replied on 30/03/2017 15:12

Posted on 30/03/2017 15:12

So the trend is that motorhomes will become more popular and likely to eclipse the sales of caravans in time as they have in Germany. That is the market that the Caravan and Motorhome Club is after capitalising on and surely that is in all our interests?

Not sure David at the rate we are loosing sites if additional members are in the interest of existing members smile

Snowy1 replied on 30/03/2017 15:18

Posted on 30/03/2017 09:41 by SteveL

Also jokingly

The change they had to cope with was a rather large meteor striking the earth and plunging it into perpetual winter. Hopefully the clubs Homo sapiens  will find it slightly easier putting up with the new colour scheme.😂

Posted on 30/03/2017 15:18

Yes maybe true, didn't others on the planet manage to adapt & survive?

JVB66 replied on 30/03/2017 16:50

Posted on 30/03/2017 14:41 by DavidKlyne

Clearly the Club's research showed some elements of the camping fraternity that the Club hoped to attract did not feel included using the name The Caravan Club because they thought there was a bias towards caravanning or did not understand what the Club provided. Those of us who have been members for some time know that not to be the case but that is an insiders view. My new edition of MMM arrived a couple of days ago and they were talking to the MD of a major manufacturer who was predicting that within a few years annual sales of motorhomes could be up around 20000 a year which would be knocking on the door of the total caravans sold each year. So the trend is that motorhomes will become more popular and likely to eclipse the sales of caravans in time as they have in Germany. That is the market that the Caravan and Motorhome Club is after  capitalising on and surely that is in all our interests? Given that the reaction to the news of the rebranding on this forum and the fact that probably only 10/20% of comments have been favourable what would the Club learn from consulting members when it's almost certain they would get a negative response? As yet we don't know the cost but I accept its likely to be quite high but if the strategy works that money will be repaid over a period of time.

David

Posted on 30/03/2017 16:50

How have the ccc embraced motor caravans,I wonder when they will spend exorbitant amounts,to cater for them?wink

JVB66 replied on 30/03/2017 16:53

Posted on 30/03/2017 15:12 by

So the trend is that motorhomes will become more popular and likely to eclipse the sales of caravans in time as they have in Germany. That is the market that the Caravan and Motorhome Club is after capitalising on and surely that is in all our interests?

Not sure David at the rate we are loosing sites if additional members are in the interest of existing members smile

Posted on 30/03/2017 16:53

It needs the country to be motor caravan friendly first, as is the case over the channel,and thats not going to happen soonundecided

SteveL replied on 30/03/2017 18:11

Posted on 30/03/2017 15:18 by Snowy1

Yes maybe true, didn't others on the planet manage to adapt & survive?

Posted on 30/03/2017 18:11

We might not be having this conversation if the extinction level event hadn't taken out the dinosaurs and allowed others, as you say, to adapt and survive. Hopefully the rebranding will have a similarly dramatic outcome.😉

peedee replied on 30/03/2017 19:22

Posted on 30/03/2017 16:50 by JVB66

How have the ccc embraced motor caravans,I wonder when they will spend exorbitant amounts,to cater for them?wink

Posted on 30/03/2017 19:22

They allow motorhomes to make "pit stops" at their sites and they have an active motorhome section.

peedee

peedee replied on 30/03/2017 19:26

Posted on 30/03/2017 16:53 by JVB66

It needs the country to be motor caravan friendly first, as is the case over the channel,and thats not going to happen soonundecided

Posted on 30/03/2017 19:26

With the increase in motorhomes there will come pressure for change especially in the tourist areas. If councils, sites and Clubs ignore the trends the owners will simply go where touring is easier.

peedee

Snowy1 replied on 30/03/2017 19:35

Posted on 30/03/2017 18:11 by SteveL

We might not be having this conversation if the extinction level event hadn't taken out the dinosaurs and allowed others, as you say, to adapt and survive. Hopefully the rebranding will have a similarly dramatic outcome.😉

Posted on 30/03/2017 19:35

Agreed, hopefully, happy days ahead for all within the Club.

tigerfish replied on 31/03/2017 12:58

Posted on 31/03/2017 12:58

From reading some of the earlier posts on this thread, I suppose that I am to be regarded as one of the much criticised whingers and moaners, although I do not accept or agree with that label, - so let me explain.

Like many others, I have been a loyal member of the Caravan Club for over 30 years. I have always supported the club when in discussion with none caravaners . However in more recent times it is true that I have raised concerns and alarm over the rapidly increasing club site charges, - mainly out of concern that the CC which has always claimed to offer the best value and prices to its members, was now being bettered by many commercial sites, now also offering high standards.

A second cause of my concern was due to a new rigidly enforced pitching policy that removed much of the freedom that was the original joy of caravanning !

However I was willing to accept that my views were not shared by many, so in order to avoid any discord I changed my preference from Club Sites to the excellent CL’s which I now regard as the Jewels in the Clubs crown.

All was well, and then the re-branding of the Caravan Club into a new body came as a horrible shock! Firstly I could see no real reason for it. Motorhomes had long been a feature of the CC, and I certainly welcomed them, and indeed felt that one day I might change over myself. But the change of name in my opinion was not required and must have cost a significant amount to implement. I wonder if that figure will ever be recouped by an increase in membership as a direct result? I very much doubt it.

The new Logo is in my opinion daft beyond belief, it no more represents the apparently desired new lively image, than a discarded Walls Ice cream wrapper.

However of even greater concern to me, as someone who has managed a large public concern in the past, was the total absence of any consultation or communication with the membership (Customers) before the launch. Such action, or indeed lack of action displays a total arrogance on behalf of the board, and was bound to attract a negative response.

In response such concern, I would have expected that a member of the board might have been prepared to come on this forum, in order to explain the thought process behind the re-branding, but no! They would seem to have retreated to the bunker.

But as for me, -No, I will not be stamping off the field carrying my ball, however- very soon now I will have to consider the wisdom of continuing my current membership of both the CC and the C&CC. Retirement now forces greater economy, and I suspect that after July I will reduce to just one. Until these latest changes, the one that I would have retained would have been the CC, but now i think it will have to be the C&CC. I have tried their club sites and have found that due to their “wrinklies” age concession, they are cheaper than the CC, and I find just as good. In addition their CS network is just as good as the CL network although admittedly not so widespread. That may change!

So CC, sadly I think that you are likely to lose at least one long term member . If I go, it will be in sadness, and not because I am a whinger or a moaner.

TF

Bakers2 replied on 31/03/2017 13:15

Posted on 31/03/2017 13:15

A good post TF.

Our renewal is 1 April 😲.  We have renewed this year too early to tell how things will develop and we love CL's too. I feel that since we joined just 7 years ago there have been large increases in costs, including the membership fee as well as site pitches. We are now on a more limited income than previously so costs will be given far more consideration than they were.

I too thought that there would have been some high level feedback following the rebrand comments by members and something in the fiasco that has been and continues to be with the website.  We may not agree with the reasons or rationalisation but not to be offered a response is frustrating. I certainly think CL's were kept in the dark and some incurred considerable costs because they planned ahead for this season. Reason given appears to be they may have let the cat out of the bag and spoil the BIG announcement. Seems derogatory really as the sign makers,  printers etc were in on it and didn't.  We had to wait months for the delayed site handbook etc. I believe the sites and wardens will continue to be as they were but if the costs rise much more well consider our position next renewal. But belonging to both clubs gives extra choice. I think we're finding more commercial sites popping up with good standards too.

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