When can we use our vehicles?

DaveT replied on 25/02/2021 11:28

DaveT

Posted on 25/02/2021 11:28

My van has been sitting in the dealership having had some warranty repairs. I would like to collect it to clean it and load it before I travel to my chosen site on 12th April. The club don't seem to know if I can legally do this, apparently not something they can advise on. I guess I won't be the only member in this position. At the moment, the government website is still advising against travel unless essential. If this is the case, there will be a number of site bookings which will have to be cancelled on 12th April.

Have I interpreted the rules correctly?

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allanandjean replied on 28/02/2021 11:16

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allanandjean

Caravanner from Cornwall

Posted on 28/02/2021 10:33 by LLM

So many people trying to find ways around the rules and justify doing what they want - just wait. Feck it up now and we will all be stuck in lockdown for the foreseeable.

Posted on 28/02/2021 11:16

As with most threads they drift to include many variations on the OP

For me taking your van somewhere to access services is OK, but don't take the proverbial or it may not be reasonable.

Arriving at you second/ holiday home and staying is not, to me, OK however, as the guidance on the HMG website says;

You cannot leave your home or the place where you are living for holidays or overnight stays unless you have a reasonable excuse for doing so.

You can bet that all the people that are starting to arrive will have their 'reasonable excuse' lined up and ready to trot out.

I could be wrong but, whilst agencies may not be letting properties out, I expect Easter to be no different than normal in terms of the number that are occupied.

JVB66 replied on 28/02/2021 11:29

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JVB66

Campervanner from Hertfordshire

Posted on 28/02/2021 10:17 by Briang

Can you take your caravan to the dealers when you have p/x your van and collect your new van which is 30 miles away. This is wales. Is this click and collect

Posted on 28/02/2021 11:29

When last years first lockdown finished? the cc arranged for Green Flag to have their staff at all? the clubs storage sites for a period , to assist members with problems getting their LVs running

Not heard if same thing is happening this time?

MikeyA replied on 28/02/2021 13:24

MikeyA

Caravanner

Posted on 28/02/2021 10:33 by LLM

So many people trying to find ways around the rules and justify doing what they want - just wait. Feck it up now and we will all be stuck in lockdown for the foreseeable.

Posted on 28/02/2021 13:24

You are quite correct but is that not exactly what the CAMC is trying to do with their statement:

We are however awaiting further clarification on the use of communal areas and shared facilities (including toilet blocks and showers) and will advise on this as soon as possible.

I thought the Governments statement was quite clear to all those who want to listen. Another case of give an inch and someone will try to grab a mile.

Tinwheeler replied on 28/02/2021 13:40

Tinwheeler

Campervanner from Cornwall

Posted on 28/02/2021 13:24 by MikeyA

You are quite correct but is that not exactly what the CAMC is trying to do with their statement:

We are however awaiting further clarification on the use of communal areas and shared facilities (including toilet blocks and showers) and will advise on this as soon as possible.

I thought the Governments statement was quite clear to all those who want to listen. Another case of give an inch and someone will try to grab a mile.

Posted on 28/02/2021 13:40

So did I - quite clear👍🏻.

Remember March 2020 and the huge reluctance to close sites?😕

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LLM replied on 28/02/2021 13:59

LLM

Motorhomer from Northumberland

Posted on 28/02/2021 13:24 by MikeyA

You are quite correct but is that not exactly what the CAMC is trying to do with their statement:

We are however awaiting further clarification on the use of communal areas and shared facilities (including toilet blocks and showers) and will advise on this as soon as possible.

I thought the Governments statement was quite clear to all those who want to listen. Another case of give an inch and someone will try to grab a mile.

Posted on 28/02/2021 13:59

My comment had nothing to do with what the CAMC is trying to say or do.

MikeyA replied on 28/02/2021 14:04

MikeyA

Caravanner

Posted on 28/02/2021 13:59 by LLM

My comment had nothing to do with what the CAMC is trying to say or do.

Posted on 28/02/2021 14:04

I appreciate what you were saying but my example of the CAMC was typical of all those people who know what the spirit of the Government's rules are, but are always trying to find a reason for disobeying them.

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bandgirl replied on 28/02/2021 17:17

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bandgirl

Caravanner from East Sussex

Posted on 25/02/2021 19:03 by Hedgehurst

We're in Northamptonshire.

Thanks for the link... I'm not yet finding anything specific there about movement of vehicles for maintenance purposes, though it's quite possible I've missed something.

Hmm, maybe I'll just have to get the guy to visit the Storage place after all, once I've visited myself to take the cover off the 'van. I find it much more useful getting feedback from him on the spot, but I'd rather have it serviced.

Thanks again,

Posted on 28/02/2021 17:17

We store our caravan in a compound at a commercial site local to us. It doesn’t affect us as our van isn’t booked for its mobile service until early June, but I had an email from the site saying that they’ll allow trades people in to do services prior to 12th April, however the caravan/motorhome owners aren’t allowed on site until after that date so need to make arrangements to drop off keys/remove covers etc. with the site staff. In addition, caravans cannot be moved in or out of the site until after 12th April, so that would include taking a unit to or from a service workshop.

People need to check what the situation is with their own storage site before booking any kind of service

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Hedgehurst replied on 28/02/2021 20:39

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Hedgehurst

Caravanner

Posted on 28/02/2021 17:17 by bandgirl

We store our caravan in a compound at a commercial site local to us. It doesn’t affect us as our van isn’t booked for its mobile service until early June, but I had an email from the site saying that they’ll allow trades people in to do services prior to 12th April, however the caravan/motorhome owners aren’t allowed on site until after that date so need to make arrangements to drop off keys/remove covers etc. with the site staff. In addition, caravans cannot be moved in or out of the site until after 12th April, so that would include taking a unit to or from a service workshop.

People need to check what the situation is with their own storage site before booking any kind of service

Posted on 28/02/2021 20:39

Indeed so, that's my next move
Though the service date was booked last year, before the present wave arose.

AnnB replied on 01/03/2021 14:27

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AnnB

Motorhomer from Lancashire

Posted on 28/02/2021 13:24 by MikeyA

You are quite correct but is that not exactly what the CAMC is trying to do with their statement:

We are however awaiting further clarification on the use of communal areas and shared facilities (including toilet blocks and showers) and will advise on this as soon as possible.

I thought the Governments statement was quite clear to all those who want to listen. Another case of give an inch and someone will try to grab a mile.

Posted on 01/03/2021 14:27

Afraid it isn’t as clear as you may think.

According to the guidance on the roadmap (taken from Gov.uk webpages) .....

”Overnight stays away from home in this country will be permitted and self-contained accommodation - those that do not require shared use of bathing, entry/exit, catering or sleeping facilities - can also reopen, though must only be used by members of the same household.”

So ‘bathing’ is mentioned but not toilet facilities. The Club are quite correctly awaiting further info and clarification.

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MikeyA replied on 01/03/2021 14:46

MikeyA

Caravanner

Posted on 01/03/2021 14:27 by AnnB

Afraid it isn’t as clear as you may think.

According to the guidance on the roadmap (taken from Gov.uk webpages) .....

”Overnight stays away from home in this country will be permitted and self-contained accommodation - those that do not require shared use of bathing, entry/exit, catering or sleeping facilities - can also reopen, though must only be used by members of the same household.”

So ‘bathing’ is mentioned but not toilet facilities. The Club are quite correctly awaiting further info and clarification.

Posted on 01/03/2021 14:46

I think you are, like the CAMC, trying to avoid the spirit of the ruling by dissecting every syllable of every word. I believe that "Bathing" is a polite way of saying anything that you would expect to be carried out in a bathroom and would automatically include toileting.

Do you not think that unless everyone obeys the spirit of every ruling for a further few months we will never return to normality. If the Government allows any sector to find a chink in the rulings then, as sure as night follows day, every disaffected sector would try to have a dispensation made for themselves leading to utter chaos.

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