Problems with new Coachman VIP

Ribble replied on 11/10/2017 18:09

Posted on 11/10/2017 18:09

After 6 years ownership of Bailey Unicorn Madrid ownership finally traded for a Coachman VIP after continuous problems with paint delamination and water ingress on the Bailey. "Out of the frying pan into the fire" - the Coachman has been worse than the Bailey with problems of water ingress into the front locker amongst many other issues. Dealer has tried several times to fix issues and we now hope that a new enclosure door and seal has fixed the problem but concern remains that water will still enter the front enclosure especially when towing in the rain. Coachman don't want to know about the issue (have written to MD and had no reply) but which I believe is fundamentally a very poor design and wrong to expect that the dealer will be able to sort it out. Am I the only one to experience continuous problems with a new Coachman?

EmilysDad replied on 11/10/2017 18:13

Posted on 11/10/2017 18:13

The front locker on my Coachman has holes in the floor ..... it's not intended to be water tight 🤔

Tinwheeler replied on 11/10/2017 19:53

Posted on 11/10/2017 19:53

I think every van we ever owned had holes in the front locker floor. It's ventilation in case of a gas leak. The gas, being heavier than air, will drop out through the holes. Gas out = water in, a fact of life (or caravan ownership) I'd say.

replied on 11/10/2017 21:19

Posted on 11/10/2017 19:53 by Tinwheeler

I think every van we ever owned had holes in the front locker floor. It's ventilation in case of a gas leak. The gas, being heavier than air, will drop out through the holes. Gas out = water in, a fact of life (or caravan ownership) I'd say.

Posted on 11/10/2017 21:19

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Nuggy replied on 11/10/2017 22:09

Posted on 11/10/2017 22:09

I am lucky, my front locker stays dry all the time, even if I don't close it properly and just let it rest in the closed position. If one make of caravan can do it then all caravans should be able to stay dry. It's pathetic quality control in the early stages when designing a new shape.

I don't want the contents of my front locker continually getting wet. Not surprising that I have no enthusiasm to go out and spend a lot of money on a new caravan.  It is sheer incompetence.

GodivaNige replied on 11/10/2017 22:44

Posted on 11/10/2017 22:44

You wouldn’t want any water to get in your front locker as the caravan floor extends into that space. If the base of the locker becomes wet, any damp will spread through to the internal living area.

The drilled drop holes should have splash shields fitted under the van, to stop standing water from the road splashing up into the gas locker space

ocsid replied on 12/10/2017 07:18

Posted on 12/10/2017 07:18

"You wouldn’t want any water to get in your front locker as the caravan floor extends into that space".

That seems with most designs a high risk build strategy for a caravan of any make to extend the van's floor into the front locker.

It's simply asking for problems in those cases where they feature a front facing opening door that then is required to completely seal against slamming forces when towing and probably water rundown when pitched.

All our vans have treated it as an “add-on” compartment forward of the van floor, with its base having been either a placed in GRP moulding or sheet of alloy checker plate. They have had rudimentary lid edge seals and gutters but not of a design offering any seriously intended chance of completely sealing out water, nor placing the van's integrity at risk from any water getting in there. 

replied on 12/10/2017 07:49

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Kerry Watkins replied on 12/10/2017 07:56

Posted on 11/10/2017 18:09 by Ribble

After 6 years ownership of Bailey Unicorn Madrid ownership finally traded for a Coachman VIP after continuous problems with paint delamination and water ingress on the Bailey. "Out of the frying pan into the fire" - the Coachman has been worse than the Bailey with problems of water ingress into the front locker amongst many other issues. Dealer has tried several times to fix issues and we now hope that a new enclosure door and seal has fixed the problem but concern remains that water will still enter the front enclosure especially when towing in the rain. Coachman don't want to know about the issue (have written to MD and had no reply) but which I believe is fundamentally a very poor design and wrong to expect that the dealer will be able to sort it out. Am I the only one to experience continuous problems with a new Coachman?

Posted on 12/10/2017 07:56

The front locker on our Hobby caravan does let in water when towing in rain. However, it is not designed to be watertight. The main body of the van is completely self contained and no water enters the van itself.

GodivaNige replied on 12/10/2017 08:06

Posted on 12/10/2017 07:18 by ocsid

"You wouldn’t want any water to get in your front locker as the caravan floor extends into that space".

That seems with most designs a high risk build strategy for a caravan of any make to extend the van's floor into the front locker.

It's simply asking for problems in those cases where they feature a front facing opening door that then is required to completely seal against slamming forces when towing and probably water rundown when pitched.

All our vans have treated it as an “add-on” compartment forward of the van floor, with its base having been either a placed in GRP moulding or sheet of alloy checker plate. They have had rudimentary lid edge seals and gutters but not of a design offering any seriously intended chance of completely sealing out water, nor placing the van's integrity at risk from any water getting in there. 

Posted on 12/10/2017 08:06

What caravans are you referring to ocsid?

Buccaneer/Elddis - the base of the front locker is the caravan floor, albeit from experience the seal around the hatch is quite substantial and I’ve never seen it get wet in there. Even leaving the hatch open when packing/unpacking in wet weather, no rain enters the locker as the hatch in the upright position forms a good shelter with any water flowing around the outside of the seal along the front panel mounding.

Bailey - its well know the side lockers if not sealed properly results in a damp floor

Swift - no idea, the last one we owned was a 2007 and the base of the locker was the caravan floor, later models may be different

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