AdBlue. Any tips?

Camperval replied on 13/05/2017 08:38

Posted on 13/05/2017 08:38

We've just bought a new motorhome on a Fiat Ducato base and it requires AdBlue. I've read the manual and some information on the Internet, so I understand how it works and that you mustn't run out of it or the engine won't start until you refill the tank. Does anyone have any experience or advice about the practicalities? We thought that we would buy a Halfords AdBlue starter pack which is 4 litres and keep that in the motorhome to be prepared for when the warning light comes on! Any thoughts?

Milothedog replied on 14/05/2017 09:19

Posted on 13/05/2017 21:47 by Camperval

Thanks everyone, I think I can relax about it now! Our main worry was availability and if we would get stuck if it ran out, but the manual states that the warning light should come on when we have 1200km range. I must say have never noticed it at service stations but then I had no knowledge of its existence until I saw the filler cap next to the diesel filler cap when we filled up with diesel for the first time! Our salesman didn't mention it to us when we picked up our new motorhome, so it's been a steep learning curve for us. (There were a few things he didn't explain actually!)

What I have learned is that you should read the owner's handbook, and the motorhome handbook, tedious as they are.

Talking of handbooks, ours states that the first service is at 30,000miles which seems rather long. I imagine the AdBlue won't last that long. Any thoughts?

Thanks again and happy camping!

 

Posted on 14/05/2017 09:19

"Talking of handbooks, ours states that the first service is at 30,000miles which seems rather long. I imagine the AdBlue won't last that long. Any thoughts?"

 

Once you have done a couple of thousand miles just top it up and note how much it takes. you can then judge what your going to use over a given mileage and if you think it's going to fall short of the 30k, refill in between. 

Try not to spill any as it will leave a white crystallized stain  around the filler neck and wherever else it ends up. smile

young thomas replied on 14/05/2017 09:38

Posted on 13/05/2017 11:56 by Camperval

Thanks for your replies BB and Aspenshaw but I really wasn't asking whether our Fiat Ducato Hobby T60H uses AdBlue, because I know that it does. It has a tank with a filler cap next to the diesel filler cap and it tells us all about it in the owners handbook and everything!

Does anyone have any practical advice for me because driving an engine that uses AdBlue is new to me?

Posted on 14/05/2017 09:38

Camperval, i wasnt doubting your word regarding the adblue filler.....and my practical advice re time/mileage between fills was ( as was Aspenshaw's, im sure) genuinely intended to help.smile

it looks as if Hobby are using a specific version of the Ducato ('people carrier') bases for their conversions, which dont have the latest (more expensive?) LPEGR technology, and therefore require AdBlue.

the only reason i could see for this might be to keep costs down and pass the saving (and a bit of extra work) onto the customer...wink

this may be the reason the sales person wasnt aware of the AdBlue requirement and didnt mention it in handover.

perhaps all other Ducatos sold there are LPEGR equipped?

either way, enjoy your vansmile

Tinwheeler replied on 14/05/2017 10:18

Posted on 14/05/2017 10:18

"firstly, the Fiat Ducato does not need AdBlue wink, Fiat engines acheive Euro 6 without this."

Good one, BB. I'm really glad you weren't casting doubtswinkwinklaughinglaughing

 

 

BlueVanMan replied on 14/05/2017 10:20

Posted on 14/05/2017 10:20

Our new van (Peugeot/Citroen Euro 6 engine) uses Adblue and claims that it will do about 8000miles  on a 15 litre tankful however not 8000 miles before needing filling. In preparation for a long European trip (sadly now cancelled) I bought a10ltr bottle of Adblue including filler for £14 from Halfords. There may be other and/or cheaper suppliers but that was the most convenient. If your vehicle has 30,000miles between service intervals then you will probably trigger a service by time rather than mileage. The industry reckons most motor homers wont do enough miles to need to fill up between services (around 5000-6000 miles from full since the Adblue should never be allowed to run out)  but I think a significant number will. 

AFAIK it is not practicable to use truck Adblue dispensers to fill up a small vehicle at filling stations for technical reasons. Perhaps in time filling stations in the UK will have van/car Adblue pumps. I don't know if these already exist in Europe but the best plan seems to be to leave UK with a full tank. 

young thomas replied on 14/05/2017 10:41

Posted on 14/05/2017 10:41

Ducato MH versions dont use AdBlue, the use LPEGR technology (as clearly confirmed by the FP website) but the people carrier versions do....may be something to do with their specific type or place of use....

however, it seems Hobby are using the people carrier variant of the base unit for whatever reason.....so no doubt at allwink

Tinwheeler replied on 14/05/2017 10:48

Posted on 14/05/2017 10:41 by young thomas

Ducato MH versions dont use AdBlue, the use LPEGR technology (as clearly confirmed by the FP website) but the people carrier versions do....may be something to do with their specific type or place of use....

however, it seems Hobby are using the people carrier variant of the base unit for whatever reason.....so no doubt at allwink

Posted on 14/05/2017 10:48

Course not. tongue-out

young thomas replied on 14/05/2017 11:14

Posted on 14/05/2017 11:14

Aspenshaw posted....

"BB is right. Fiat Ducato engines do not use AdBlue and never have. The Iveco engine range does. Peugeot based motorhomes do"

A, a very dangerous thing to do, associate yourself with one of my postswink

still, theres no chance of you receiving the same 'Tinny Treatment' for an identical statement as i made.....he likes to save all his lurve for meundecided

eurortraveller replied on 14/05/2017 11:22

Posted on 13/05/2017 08:38 by Camperval

We've just bought a new motorhome on a Fiat Ducato base and it requires AdBlue. I've read the manual and some information on the Internet, so I understand how it works and that you mustn't run out of it or the engine won't start until you refill the tank. Does anyone have any experience or advice about the practicalities? We thought that we would buy a Halfords AdBlue starter pack which is 4 litres and keep that in the motorhome to be prepared for when the warning light comes on! Any thoughts?

Posted on 14/05/2017 11:22

Phone the dealer you bought it from and take professional advice? 

Tinwheeler replied on 14/05/2017 11:30

Posted on 14/05/2017 11:14 by young thomas

Aspenshaw posted....

"BB is right. Fiat Ducato engines do not use AdBlue and never have. The Iveco engine range does. Peugeot based motorhomes do"

A, a very dangerous thing to do, associate yourself with one of my postswink

still, theres no chance of you receiving the same 'Tinny Treatment' for an identical statement as i made.....he likes to save all his lurve for meundecided

Posted on 14/05/2017 11:30

Ah, but only one of you has been furiously back pedalling.laughing

 

JVB66 replied on 14/05/2017 12:54

Posted on 14/05/2017 12:54

Then there are some makes that need ad blue and even the main dealerships do not know,  some friends of ours have a Volvo soft top and had a starting problem that the dealership workshop were unable to trace,and after Volvo HO got involved it was found it had run out of ad blue (serviced a month before)undecided

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