Extra security

troutlegs replied on 24/07/2020 16:30

Posted on 24/07/2020 16:30

Happy Friday allcool

As thefts of vehicles are on the rise as per our insurers. For our motorhome we are looking to purchase a Milenco wheel clamp £136 the type that fits over the wheel. Anyone out there using one? All advise welcome on any type of extra security.

SteveL replied on 23/11/2020 10:37

Posted on 23/11/2020 09:39 by JimE

I keep my MH in a barn about a mile from my house.  To save having to check it every day or two, I have recently installed a Vodafone Curve GPS tracker in my motorhome.  I use the associated app on my smartphone to monitor its location and use the "saved zones" feature which sends my phone an alert if the MH moves outside a user-defined perimeter.

This set up works very well for me as my storage has an EHU so although the tracker has its own battery which lasts about 5 days, I can plug it into my mains supply to keep it fully charged.  Alternatively if EHU isn't available, the tracker can be recharged via a USB lead off the solar powered 12v system.

The Curve cost me £20 to buy, but there is currently a Black Friday deal for £12.  It costs £2 a month to run, added to a Vodafone mobile account.

 

  

Posted on 23/11/2020 10:37

We have a vodaphone automotive tracker on our MH, unfortunately a bit more expensive than your curve.☹️ The insurance company insisted. Besides it's backup, ours is powered by the cab battery and this is maintained by solar. It came with a couple of fobs that attach to the key ring. No fob and an alert is sent as soon as it moves

eurortraveller replied on 23/11/2020 11:00

Posted on 23/11/2020 11:00

You are in bed, in pyjamas, asleep, it's the middle of the night...you get an alert that your Motorhome stored somewhere has moved...then what do you do?  

Rufs replied on 23/11/2020 11:56

Posted on 23/11/2020 11:00 by eurortraveller

You are in bed, in pyjamas, asleep, it's the middle of the night...you get an alert that your Motorhome stored somewhere has moved...then what do you do?  

Posted on 23/11/2020 11:56

Hope your insurance premiums are up to date and that you have all the right cover laughing

SteveL replied on 23/11/2020 12:51

Posted on 23/11/2020 11:00 by eurortraveller

You are in bed, in pyjamas, asleep, it's the middle of the night...you get an alert that your Motorhome stored somewhere has moved...then what do you do?  

Posted on 23/11/2020 12:51

In our case the alert would come from vodaphone, not sure if text or voice. It is easy to check on the App that it is on the move and it is not a false alarm. I would check that they had informed the police. There is not much more I could do. I don't think it is worth the risk to go chasing after it.

Rufs replied on 23/11/2020 13:42

Posted on 23/11/2020 12:51 by SteveL

In our case the alert would come from vodaphone, not sure if text or voice. It is easy to check on the App that it is on the move and it is not a false alarm. I would check that they had informed the police. There is not much more I could do. I don't think it is worth the risk to go chasing after it.

Posted on 23/11/2020 13:42

Wow!! seems a bit wishy washy to me...

"in our case the alert would come from vodaphone, not sure if text or voice"

"I would check that they had informed the police".

would vodaphone inform the police?, my guess is at this stage they do not know whether it is a false alarm or not ? e.g. you could be moving it and forgotten to switch off the tracker.

by the time you get to this stage your RV is bombing down the nearest motorway or holed up in a lock up some where, were they are removing the tracker etc.

"I don't think it is worth the risk to go chasing after it."

so the only good thing to come out of this is the fact that lying in your bed in your PJ's you know that somebody has nicked your RV.

I guess looking on the bright side, if the thieves are not that bright and are not aware that a tracking system is installed, they will go whereever and the police should be able to trace ?

SteveL replied on 23/11/2020 15:58

Posted on 23/11/2020 13:42 by Rufs

Wow!! seems a bit wishy washy to me...

"in our case the alert would come from vodaphone, not sure if text or voice"

"I would check that they had informed the police".

would vodaphone inform the police?, my guess is at this stage they do not know whether it is a false alarm or not ? e.g. you could be moving it and forgotten to switch off the tracker.

by the time you get to this stage your RV is bombing down the nearest motorway or holed up in a lock up some where, were they are removing the tracker etc.

"I don't think it is worth the risk to go chasing after it."

so the only good thing to come out of this is the fact that lying in your bed in your PJ's you know that somebody has nicked your RV.

I guess looking on the bright side, if the thieves are not that bright and are not aware that a tracking system is installed, they will go whereever and the police should be able to trace ?

Posted on 23/11/2020 15:58

Originally I had just asked for an alarm to be fitted. However, I couldn't get insurance without an approved tracker. To be honest, if it is stolen I would rather not have it back.

We can't move it and accidentally set it off, as a fob is with each set of keys, it is always on just not alarming. I put I would check if they had informed the police as I suspect they would want some sort of confirmation from me, that It wasn't a malfunction and I was driving it. However, if I'm in bed and it's moving out of Nottinghamshire on the App map, it has clearly been nicked and I would contact them immediately, along with the insurance company.

You are wrong in your statement that the only good thing to come out of It is the fact I know it's been nicked. The main advantage is that it is insured because it has the tracker!!

One thing I do like is that because it is always recording we can call up our journeys on google maps, with dates and times. 

 

Rufs replied on 23/11/2020 16:11

Posted on 23/11/2020 16:11

You are wrong in your statement that the only good thing to come out of It is the fact I know it's been nicked. The main advantage is that it is insured because it has the tracker!!

Yup , good point, my caravan, although on a hard standing next to bungalow has to have hitch lock and wheel lock for insurance to be valid, but as demonstrated many times, both are easy to remove.

SeasideBill replied on 23/11/2020 17:20

Posted on 23/11/2020 13:42 by Rufs

Wow!! seems a bit wishy washy to me...

"in our case the alert would come from vodaphone, not sure if text or voice"

"I would check that they had informed the police".

would vodaphone inform the police?, my guess is at this stage they do not know whether it is a false alarm or not ? e.g. you could be moving it and forgotten to switch off the tracker.

by the time you get to this stage your RV is bombing down the nearest motorway or holed up in a lock up some where, were they are removing the tracker etc.

"I don't think it is worth the risk to go chasing after it."

so the only good thing to come out of this is the fact that lying in your bed in your PJ's you know that somebody has nicked your RV.

I guess looking on the bright side, if the thieves are not that bright and are not aware that a tracking system is installed, they will go whereever and the police should be able to trace ?

Posted on 23/11/2020 17:20

Despite all the urban myths about how easy it is for thieves to steal vehicles, identifying a vehicle fitted with a tracker isn’t easy unless using sophisticated kit like an electronic sweeper. In that event the thief is more likely to move on to the next vehicle, rather than spend time trying to locate/remove a tiny (credit card sized) device hidden in an inaccessible space in the knowledge their actions will ping an instant alert somewhere. Trackers can be activated by vibration, power disconnect as well as movement. They can also be used to disable the vehicle after theft e.g. disable the fuel pump a few miles up the road which will inconvenience the thief.

To overcome the prospect of a tracker most thieves move the stolen vehicle a short distance, park it up, then return a few days later to remove the vehicle if satisfied nobody is watching it. In the interim you’ve got a reasonable chance of vehicle recovery with minimal damage.

JimE replied on 23/11/2020 17:45

Posted on 23/11/2020 11:00 by eurortraveller

You are in bed, in pyjamas, asleep, it's the middle of the night...you get an alert that your Motorhome stored somewhere has moved...then what do you do?  

Posted on 23/11/2020 17:45

In my case, my phone is kept downstairs overnight, so I wouldn't find out until first thing in the morning.  However, the Curve tracker keeps a log of the vehicles whereabouts (every 5 mins approx), so I could check that via the app and hopefully would have a good idea where the MH was!.

Not foolproof but saves me having to physically check the MH is still stored safely.

EasyT replied on 23/11/2020 17:51

Posted on 23/11/2020 16:11 by Rufs

You are wrong in your statement that the only good thing to come out of It is the fact I know it's been nicked. The main advantage is that it is insured because it has the tracker!!

Yup , good point, my caravan, although on a hard standing next to bungalow has to have hitch lock and wheel lock for insurance to be valid, but as demonstrated many times, both are easy to remove.

Posted on 23/11/2020 17:51

I took the hitch lock discount off as I prefer the Alko axle lock and was happier not to also use hitch lock