Looking at Buying A Motorhome. Advice Welcome!

replied on 21/02/2021 19:34

Posted on 21/02/2021 19:34

We have started to look at holiday plans for after the pandemic and are moving to the notion that touring within/outwith EU might be easier by motorhome than by car + touring caravan. We don't want a Pickfords Removal Lorry [no budget either], but something that will be comfortable for the 2 of us for stays of up to the 90 days EU Limit, without having to eract/dismatle awnings and all the paraphenalia every time we move site.

We like the Swift Escape Compact C404 at 5.99 metres, BUT there doesn't appear to be much storage for the obligatory external dining table + 2 chairs and I don't want the challenge of trying to stop them sliding up and down the living area whilst driving.the 120BHP engine seems a tad underpowered for shifting something with the aerodynamic profile of a loaf and the max load is limitd to 3300kg

We've seen [online only] a low mileage 2017 Swift Lifestyle 622 [seems to be a Dealer Special based on the Escape Range] that has a 130BHP engine and a 6.29m length and an external 'cupboard' rather than garage for the table and chairs and the layout is essentially our Swift Challenger caravan bolted onto the Fiat chassis. The slight increase in length might make all the difference and we have the comfort of knowing that the same caravan layout was quite comfortable for our trip to Spain 15 months ago.

Has anyone got any thoughts/advice/experience that will steer us in the right direction, please? We won't be committing to a purchase until we have the chance to see the motorhome at the Dealership and do a physical check to confirm that the configuration etc workfor us.

TIA

Steve

Takethedogalong replied on 22/02/2021 11:18

Posted on 22/02/2021 11:18

I hope you are making a good recovery Steve. I am sure you will find a MH less stressful across the board than even a small caravan. It’s one of the reasons we decided to buy our MH, so much less to do and think about than readying a caravan, and it sits on our drive ready to roll on a whim. All we do before setting off from home is basic safety checks, put some water in, put the bag of techy valuables in, shove the dog in and roll. Incidentally, we kept our old van. Intend (honestly😂) doing it up to use as a bolt hole left somewhere, but we just haven’t got on with it partly because we are out and about all time in MH. It should have been our lockdown project in truth, but others things took priority. 
I would investigate a solar panel for MH as well, keeps things ticking over, gives you a bit more scope for some very basic stops if you fancy. Mind, we don’t carry a TV or any electrical stuff that requires a lot of juice.

replied on 22/02/2021 11:35

Posted on 22/02/2021 11:15 by

Good point re the EHU, TW!

Our ideal holiday would be pitch up, wind out a canopy for sun protection, table & 2 chairs for eating, then tee shirt & shorts and off on the bike to explore.

Need to lose the 'complete Anal Retentive' label a former work colleague awarded 'in her professional opinion' that compels me to load another 1/2 dozen 'just in case'.

I know those foreigners buy food and household consumables, because we see them doing so when we are in the local supermarket ...

Steve

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Takethedogalong replied on 22/02/2021 11:45

Posted on 22/02/2021 11:45

Interesting observation AD. We have remarked that some MH models don’t have decent windows, and can possibly appear a bit too closed in for us. The big windows are one of the things we enjoy about our choice. We often pull up somewhere, get out the bino’s and spend a while bird/wildlife spotting in the dry and warm. Much better than being glued to a TV screen. PVC’s are much more of a compromise, you have to go with what the conversion safely and practically allows, but some have big rear doors, side doors, so still plenty of fresh air and light. Like you, we live outdoors when we can😁
This was our view last Summer. Glorious beach just below dunes. Window was wide open because of heat, we had just got back from a swim, airing out MH before eating outside. It’s UK by the way😉

Tinwheeler replied on 22/02/2021 11:52

Posted on 22/02/2021 11:52

Which only goes to show how different people are, David.🤷‍♂️

I'll be the first to admit that having 4 people in our PVC is simply not meant to be but with the 2 of us, we do far better than 'manage', we live comfortably even when confined to barracks by the weather of the Northern Isles. Btw, we've not done away with the TV or outside chairs and have the wind out canopy for the occasional day when the sun shines.

I think it's largely mindset in that we appreciate the benefits of the small van and that makes us willing to adapt. If someone doesn't really really want small, they're never going to he happy in it. 

Takethedogalong replied on 22/02/2021 12:04

Posted on 22/02/2021 12:04

True Tinny. We were frugal caravanners, even in our 13 foot Windrush. We have always preferred ease of set up/getaway, but have always been comfortable in our very small choices. Won’t suit all folks, we are all different, but it works very well for some of us. And that’s weeks away, not just the odd few days. If the weather was set to be nice in Cornwall, we often just shoved the awning under the van, and lived properly outside in day. Even to point of leaving bed set up. We holidayed with three big dogs in our van as well, but never cramped. You just shoved a dog up a bit😂

replied on 22/02/2021 12:07

Posted on 22/02/2021 11:52 by Tinwheeler

Which only goes to show how different people are, David.🤷‍♂️

I'll be the first to admit that having 4 people in our PVC is simply not meant to be but with the 2 of us, we do far better than 'manage', we live comfortably even when confined to barracks by the weather of the Northern Isles. Btw, we've not done away with the TV or outside chairs and have the wind out canopy for the occasional day when the sun shines.

I think it's largely mindset in that we appreciate the benefits of the small van and that makes us willing to adapt. If someone doesn't really really want small, they're never going to he happy in it. 

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brue replied on 22/02/2021 12:10

Posted on 22/02/2021 12:10

The other consideration is taking it out for the day, whether from home or when you're away. You'll have everything with you and smaller vans are much easier to take to places. 

I haven't felt any more cramped sitting with friends in a motorhome than a caravan, I feel they're all a bit cramped for indoor gatherings but some like to meet up and it's fine either way.

Since Brexit you won't be able to load up with consumables if heading to the EU so you'll be joining in a bit more with the locals and carrying a bit less weight in the van!

JVB66 replied on 22/02/2021 12:23

Posted on 22/02/2021 12:07 by

Couldn't agree more and when a MH passes us on a motorway or packs up and leaves in short order while we spend half a day, I do briefly wonder if we were younger with more touring years ahead would it be for us.However once settled never give it a thought.

Posted on 22/02/2021 12:23

It has not been a problem for us getting ready to move, when on a tour with either our two MCs or any .of our caravans before or since our 10years of using  motorised caravans, just gives us more places to go when pitched up with a caravan, but we have normally travelled light ,unless when the grandchildren came and we would spend 21 nights on one site usually near the sea

DavidKlyne replied on 22/02/2021 12:40

Posted on 22/02/2021 12:40

A final thought; I had a heart attack in Spain in late January 2020 and the thought of just jumping into a M/H instead of pushing & pulling a caravan for the last couple of feet has an appeal!

Steve

Sorry to hear that and hope you are now well mended? Might that be the reason for the relative radio silence recently? Certainly a good reason to be thinking motorhome! Not quite the same situation but we had an incident with our last caravan where the mover wasn't working and we had to get it back into the garden up a slight slope. We realised how futile it was and realised our days of moving a large caravan around by hand were over. I think it was that one incident that tipped us towards changing to a motorhome, we were already halfway there but that is what finally gave us the push we needed. This is our 8th year of motorhome ownership and we do really appreciate the simplicity getting ready to go and arrival or even stopping en route compared to our experience with a caravan in the latter years of our caravanning days, but others will disagree.

David 

 

Takethedogalong replied on 22/02/2021 12:41

Posted on 22/02/2021 12:10 by brue

The other consideration is taking it out for the day, whether from home or when you're away. You'll have everything with you and smaller vans are much easier to take to places. 

I haven't felt any more cramped sitting with friends in a motorhome than a caravan, I feel they're all a bit cramped for indoor gatherings but some like to meet up and it's fine either way.

Since Brexit you won't be able to load up with consumables if heading to the EU so you'll be joining in a bit more with the locals and carrying a bit less weight in the van!

Posted on 22/02/2021 12:41

Absolutely brue. We were on standby to sorn our MH for another month, but won’t if we can travel a bit further afield for day. It’s the safest day out option by a long way for us, our own facilities, our own eatery. Day trip heaven😁Even in the rain😉 Park up, walk or cycle ride, back to base for a meal, chill out watching birds, head home. 

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