Looking at Buying A Motorhome. Advice Welcome!

replied on 21/02/2021 19:34

Posted on 21/02/2021 19:34

We have started to look at holiday plans for after the pandemic and are moving to the notion that touring within/outwith EU might be easier by motorhome than by car + touring caravan. We don't want a Pickfords Removal Lorry [no budget either], but something that will be comfortable for the 2 of us for stays of up to the 90 days EU Limit, without having to eract/dismatle awnings and all the paraphenalia every time we move site.

We like the Swift Escape Compact C404 at 5.99 metres, BUT there doesn't appear to be much storage for the obligatory external dining table + 2 chairs and I don't want the challenge of trying to stop them sliding up and down the living area whilst driving.the 120BHP engine seems a tad underpowered for shifting something with the aerodynamic profile of a loaf and the max load is limitd to 3300kg

We've seen [online only] a low mileage 2017 Swift Lifestyle 622 [seems to be a Dealer Special based on the Escape Range] that has a 130BHP engine and a 6.29m length and an external 'cupboard' rather than garage for the table and chairs and the layout is essentially our Swift Challenger caravan bolted onto the Fiat chassis. The slight increase in length might make all the difference and we have the comfort of knowing that the same caravan layout was quite comfortable for our trip to Spain 15 months ago.

Has anyone got any thoughts/advice/experience that will steer us in the right direction, please? We won't be committing to a purchase until we have the chance to see the motorhome at the Dealership and do a physical check to confirm that the configuration etc workfor us.

TIA

Steve

DavidKlyne replied on 25/02/2021 11:54

Posted on 25/02/2021 10:41 by

Elaine and I are quite cautious [allegedly] insofar as we will agonise over the minutiae and then ask ourselves 'Are we doing the right thing?' several times; and then we'll cut loose with a vengeance and disappear for months on end! Got an insurance quote this morning, so it is getting serious! Do you have any thoughts on service costs, please, David?

I would like to cut the finance period to the shortest manageable time but avoiding the 'we can afford the m/home, but have nothing left to pay for holidays' trap!

Steve

Posted on 25/02/2021 11:54

Steve

How much additional cost changing from a caravan to motorhome depends on how you are organised. When we purchased our first motorhome we got rid of our 4X4 (our only car) and traded it in for a compact car. The immediate saving was in VED. To this day, eight years later, I am still paying less VED of my small car and the motorhome than I was on the 4X4. So at worst it was neutral at best I saved a bit of money. Insurance is similar to our caravan so no additional costs there. Service wise it is the cab service which is additional. The habitation service for the motorhome is about the same as we paid for the caravan £200/250. The cab service is about the same but as TW points out on the popular brands of motorhome base vehicles the servicing is now every two years which offers a bit of a saving. We are lucky that we can store our van in our back garden so we don't have any additional storage costs. 

I don't know if they would be of any interest but I did write a couple of blogs on the change from caravan to motorhome here and here. The first deals with the initial change and the second deals with the change to our second motorhome.

David

replied on 25/02/2021 12:09

Posted on 25/02/2021 12:09

I don't know if they would be of any interest but I did write a couple of blogs on the change from caravan to motorhome here and here. The first deals with the initial change and the second deals with the change to our second motorhome.

Thanks very much for this detailed reply, David; it's very useful indeed. I'll read your blogs tonight when I have the chance to take time to absorb the detail, so I may well be posting some more questions overnight!

Steve

replied on 25/02/2021 12:28

Posted on 25/02/2021 12:28

Not wishing to poke my nose in but have you considered a used van? There are some good low mileage hardly used examples out there due to people making expensive mistakes when they buy their first vans. They can be absolute bargains.

TW,

Good point. There is a Globebus T6 at Pullingers with 2.5k miles on a [Glasgow registered] 2019 plate, so 500 miles of that will have accrued on the drive down south! It's still just under £60k and the payload has been upgraded, so that suggests that the 'goodies' have eaten into the available payload and I might face a problem in 3 years time when C1 medicals rear their ugly head.

I also worry about ex hire m/homes ['1 careful owner' where 40 or so people have been swinging on the blinds whilst the kids/grandkids have been bouncing on the mattress] during the 5000 miles it has covered. I've seen some German m/homes on 2013/14 plates with up to 32k miles. Are they still at the 'barely run in' stage [my VW Tiguan freed up nicely at about 22k miles], or is the Fiat running gear likely to be starting its journey 'on the way home'?

Steve

Tinwheeler replied on 25/02/2021 12:46

Posted on 25/02/2021 12:46

Obviously you have to keep your eyes open but mainstream dealers often have preregistered or ex-dem vehicles as well as used. Keep an open mind as a ready to roll van should have had the wrinkles ironed out and you won't have to wait 8 months to take delivery. Btw, I think you'd spot an ex-hire van.

replied on 09/03/2021 20:00

Posted on 09/03/2021 20:00

UPDATE;

We are edging closer to making a decision, almost at the 'Put up or Shut up 'stage. We are looking at a new 5.99m Sunlight T60 Active and it looks as though the Dealer will take our Folding Caravan in P/Ex, making the financial side more comfortable/less daunting.

Has anyone any experience of these motorhomes? I found a Practical Caravan Review for the 2017 model in which the Reviewer said at the outset that it was a budget model for the less well heeled, and I found that strangely comforting ... Just need to get the 'Less Well Heeled' T Shirts printed onto recycled plain white cotton T Shirts from Oxfam and we should be ready to go sealed

Steve

DavidKlyne replied on 09/03/2021 20:57

Posted on 09/03/2021 20:57

Steve

It looks a neat little go anywhere van. They are part of the Erwin Hymer Group apparently so a good pedigree? Not sure we could cope with the high bed but if that is not an issue it could be a good choice.

David

replied on 09/03/2021 22:26

Posted on 09/03/2021 20:57 by DavidKlyne

Steve

It looks a neat little go anywhere van. They are part of the Erwin Hymer Group apparently so a good pedigree? Not sure we could cope with the high bed but if that is not an issue it could be a good choice.

David

Posted on 09/03/2021 22:26

Thanks, David.

The high bed and the ladder are a compromise; I'm hoping to get either a caravan twin step, or to make a carpeted twin step [that can live in the garage during the day], to make the 3am bathroom visit less challenging.

There's penty of payload, 700kg+, so I'm hoping that a 140bhp engine and unutilised capacity will make a post COVID ascent and descent of the Pyrenees less taxing.

Steve

SeasideBill replied on 10/03/2021 19:09

Posted on 09/03/2021 20:00 by

UPDATE;

We are edging closer to making a decision, almost at the 'Put up or Shut up 'stage. We are looking at a new 5.99m Sunlight T60 Active and it looks as though the Dealer will take our Folding Caravan in P/Ex, making the financial side more comfortable/less daunting.

Has anyone any experience of these motorhomes? I found a Practical Caravan Review for the 2017 model in which the Reviewer said at the outset that it was a budget model for the less well heeled, and I found that strangely comforting ... Just need to get the 'Less Well Heeled' T Shirts printed onto recycled plain white cotton T Shirts from Oxfam and we should be ready to go sealed

Steve

Posted on 10/03/2021 19:09

Sunlight was on the list 3 years ago when I purchased my PVC. Initially the price is attractive and dealers were offering good deals to shift them. However, as you say it’s a ‘budget’ product and I think it showed in the build quality and flimsy fittings. Personally I’d ditch the T Shirt and go a bit higher - you get what you pay for. In general I was more impressed with continental than UK models.

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