Stop increases in road tax for motorhomes.

GEandGJE replied on 24/09/2019 12:39

Posted on 24/09/2019 12:29 by cyberyacht

The downside of up-plating is that there are a lot of restrictions on vehicles over 3500Kg from an access point of view.

Posted on 24/09/2019 12:39

What access restrictions would that be? Up plating doesn't change the dimensions of the MH.   

young thomas replied on 24/09/2019 13:04

Posted on 24/09/2019 13:04

a 3500kg plated van can go into continental town centres, the same physical van upplated to 3650kg cannot.

also, that same van would be subject to lower speed limits, but also requires the driver to have different groups on their license to drive this 'now heavier' van.

its the plated weight that drives our rules and regulations.

DavidKlyne replied on 24/09/2019 14:42

Posted on 24/09/2019 11:27 by Heethers

Does this mean next year my 2015 Autotrail tribute will increase

Posted on 24/09/2019 14:42

No, you will be pleased to know, it would not be easy to make it retrospective. Up until September of this year there has been no need for motorhome builders to add emission figures to the Certificate of Conformity so they are taxed as Light Goods Vehicles. The change in the rules now require motorhomes built from 1st September 2019 to have that information added and from that point VED rates will equate to emissions. The real sting in the tail is not so much that the VED will be based on emissions but that motorhomes will be treated the same as cars in that any motorhome costing over £40000 (the vast majority) will also be libel for an extra first year tax as its considered a luxury vehicle! 

The nonsense is that if you buy £100000 motorhome weighing more than 3500kgs it will still be taxed as a goods vehicle and to add insult to injury the VED will only be £165 a year!!!  Upplating might be an option from 3500kgs to take it into a lower VED range but as it will have the emissions on the Certificate of Conformity will it apply?

David

brue replied on 24/09/2019 15:31

Posted on 24/09/2019 15:31

No doubt they're working on it...I think we're all on a wing and a prayer with emissions for all types of vehicle. wink

GEandGJE replied on 24/09/2019 17:37

Posted on 24/09/2019 13:04 by young thomas

a 3500kg plated van can go into continental town centres, the same physical van upplated to 3650kg cannot.

also, that same van would be subject to lower speed limits, but also requires the driver to have different groups on their license to drive this 'now heavier' van.

its the plated weight that drives our rules and regulations.

Posted on 24/09/2019 17:37

Thanks BB

I understand the restrictions on speed limits and driving license requirements. I was just after some clarity on the " a lot of restrictions on vehicles over 3500Kg from an access point of view" statement.

rayjsj replied on 25/09/2019 11:46

Posted on 25/09/2019 11:46

So, I buy a NEW 3500kg goods van, and proceed to convert it into a Campervan (privately not by a registered converter) the whole works.But do NOT get the DVLA designation changed to motorcaravan. Van costs less than £40000,  conversion is a completely seperate but extra cost. Vehicle is Now a PLG  not subject to annual emission based charges ? or have I read it all wrong ?

I am now 'white van man'  am I not ?

.These new laws seem as leaky as a sieve.

hitchglitch replied on 26/09/2019 19:54

Posted on 26/09/2019 19:54

If you add the tax for an initial purchase of a vehicle costing more than £40k to the additional tax for highest band emission for 5 years it comes to around £3700. About 6% on a new motorhome costing, say, £60k. That’s a big hit.

Freedom a whitebox replied on 27/09/2019 09:14

Posted on 27/09/2019 09:14

Can someone explain what’s the difference between  a Motorhome and a car which is bought / used solely to tow a caravan and why they shouldn’t be taxed the same?

I've always been a firm believer in the scraping of road tax and adding it to the fuel price. Then the more you use the more you pay.

Heethers replied on 27/09/2019 09:33

Posted on 27/09/2019 09:14 by Freedom a whitebox

Can someone explain what’s the difference between  a Motorhome and a car which is bought / used solely to tow a caravan and why they shouldn’t be taxed the same?

I've always been a firm believer in the scraping of road tax and adding it to the fuel price. Then the more you use the more you pay.

Posted on 27/09/2019 09:33

That will never happen while the government can reap taxation off you and still put the duty up on fuel at whim, double bubble if you get my drift

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