ULEZ type zones in Europe - What needed?

MoHoSinger replied on 08/04/2024 16:32

Posted on 08/04/2024 16:32

I have just bought an LHD Hobby T500 with a view to European touring.  This, my first MH, it is SORNED until May but will be on the Newhaven Dieppe ferry 22.07.24 for  the thick end of a week staying locally (Dieppe & Le Crotoy) as a "toe in the water" exercise.

Come circa 28.08.24 I shall be taking a "polar route" visit involving:

Dieppe - overnight near Lille  - Franco Belgian Border (Tournai/Mons/ Wellin) - Luxembourg - A8 & A13 to Zweibrucken - Vosges du Norde to an overnight at Haguenau - B500 thru Black Forest - Switzerland East of Zug for a few days - Over the Alps to Colico for a few days.

and the retracing my steps with maybe some variation on the way home.

The route is familiar to me having ridden it by motorcycle  many times using the defunct Hull/Zeebrugge ferry.

QUESTION: What if any ULEZ type stickers do I need/would be advised?

I have zero ambition to enter any cities anywhere on or near my route. My belief is that I do not need any ULEZ type stickers. Am I correct?

I suppose there is some risk that an emergency (medical breakdown or whatever) might take me to a local large conurbation so links that I can store on my laptop and register as needed would be appreciated.

I have the French sticker site - https://certificat-air.gouv.fr/

Others would be appreciated

TIA for your replies

Chris 

GTrimmer replied on 08/04/2024 17:38

Posted on 08/04/2024 17:38

At tthe 'exorbitant cost of around 4 Euros for the life of the vehicle which is valid for every current (and probablu future) French Low emission zones I wouldn't worry.

Just get one and forget about it.

MoHoSinger replied on 08/04/2024 19:05

Posted on 08/04/2024 19:05

Yes that makes sense given that mostly I will ferry to France. And it might help to keep les flics happy given digital registration even in non-ULEZ areas regarding any discretionary stop for other reasons.

Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg, Switzerland and Italy are largely unknown to me regarding ULEZ. I never even considered it when traveling by bike. My broad understanding is that, like the UK, there are specific large conurbations where such rules apply and rules vary from one conurbation to another just as in the UK. So 99% of the land mass of each country is therefor ULEZ free.

I particularly want to avoid annual renewal of vignettes. I am already going to have to shell out for the Swiss motorway vignette. (They used to be plentiful lightly used  on Ebay but the Swiss government has cracked down. At least you can now buy an E-vignette online). I do not want annual charges all over Europe having to be paid "just in case".

Chris

DavidKlyne replied on 08/04/2024 20:21

Posted on 08/04/2024 20:21

As GTrimmer says considering the minimum cost of the main stickers for France and Germany cost so little it would seem a false economy not to get them in advance. You only tend to get involved with annual renewals if you invest in a motorway tag and even there they yearly costs are quite small.

David

MoHoSinger replied on 09/04/2024 09:35

Posted on 09/04/2024 09:35

David,

Thanks. Yes I think I will do that.

I did not say in my initial post that my son and family live in Switzerland. I have asked him to acquaint me with the position there. He lives mid way between Zurich and Zug so there is some risk of ending up in Zurich in an emergency. So I might end up with three registrations.

I have not yet explored the position in Italy at all. There is some prospect that I might leave my MH with my son and fly home returning say one month later to foray further south in Italy maybe next year and  I have experience of Italian bureaucracy  when biking in Italy during Covid!!!

P.S. My prospective insurers  Caravan Guard cannot insure while my MH is left in the care of my son and family in Switzerland but, given their generous breakdown cover of up to 9 months in Europe, that gives me flexibility. They cannot assess the risk in Switzerland. I can. My son lives on the edge of a village with two farmers as his Immediate neighbours and my MH would be parked in his garden. The risk is very low (and maybe he can insure that risk for me given that he works for Zurich Insurance  albeit in a worldwide role!). I would, of course, advise Caravan Guard of any such stay to keep my nose clean with them!

Before I start Googling in my best italian anybody have experience of ULEZ provisions in Italy?

Chris

Lutz replied on 09/04/2024 10:30

Posted on 09/04/2024 10:30

ULEZ zones in Italy only apply to Bologna, Milan and Palermo so if you stay clear of them you’ll be OK. To enter those cities you need to buy a permit online. They don’t have stickers. However, a number of other cities have zones that only residents and delivery vehicles may enter. These are marked ZTL (Zona Traffico Limitato) and you should watch out for these.

MoHoSinger replied on 10/04/2024 08:21

Posted on 10/04/2024 08:21

Lutz,

Very helpful. Thank you.

As my destination this September will include Colico there is a small risk that a breakdown or whatever could end up with repairs in Milan. So I had better do some reading and log urls in my notebook PC.

Thanks also for the heads-up on ZTLs. They would have thrown me!!

Chris

iansoady replied on 10/04/2024 10:38

Posted on 08/04/2024 20:21 by DavidKlyne

As GTrimmer says considering the minimum cost of the main stickers for France and Germany cost so little it would seem a false economy not to get them in advance. You only tend to get involved with annual renewals if you invest in a motorway tag and even there they yearly costs are quite small.

David

Posted on 10/04/2024 10:38

Or zero if you use ATMB!

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