Storage and virus

Theevath replied on 01/05/2020 16:13

Posted on 01/05/2020 16:13

My caravan has some cracks in the rear panel, and is prone to water ingress from rain. As a result, I need to check it regularly to make sure no real damage occurs. It's in storage at Whitewater site, Stockton-on-Tees and access has been denied due to the virus precautions.

Is it reasonable for the Club to refuse access to my property for checking of the van?

You should note that I was ejected from the Members Facebook group for asking this question.

JVB66 replied on 02/05/2020 13:04

Posted on 02/05/2020 13:04

One thing i cannot understand with our storage,is the fact that to visit would have no contact with the site staff as it is controlled by card reader both at the site entrance,    also to gain access to the storage,  We have been advised that a 24hr advise is needed to gain access to enable "essential" workers to remove/replace their LVs,

What we could not understand when we requested access  (refused)to remove the foodstuffs (even after a call to HO) the site concerned is one of the 17 that are "open"? giving refuge to "key workers?/those with no other homes

JVB66 replied on 02/05/2020 13:18

Posted on 01/05/2020 19:41 by ADP1963

JVB66   

I would be a little concerned at food left in the Caravan for any length of time, Mice & Rats will soon get scent of that!. The smart ones even carry Tin Openers.surprised

Posted on 02/05/2020 13:18

It is all thankfully in sealed containers,undecided

Theevath replied on 03/05/2020 10:36

Posted on 02/05/2020 12:45 by

I would only want to make that journey if I had a plan to keep the water out at least temporarily no point just going to look. When our leaky Lunar rained in which was a frequent occurrence I found Gaffer tape a good temporary fix or on another occasion whilst waiting for repair I fastened the largest tarpaulin I could find over it.

Since B&Q visits are being classed as essential I dont see why a trip there for a tarpaulin and a brief visit to the van should be any different.  The idea of sitting at home thinking about advanced rot setting in would only make lock down even worse IMO

Posted on 03/05/2020 10:36

I suppose that's the real problem. The van already has gaffer tape over the cracks, which I used to replace every month or so, due to weather deterioration. I don't know whether it needs replacing, whether the van has leaked, whether there is mould up the walls, or whatever. 

I'm barred by the Club from visiting it, so I worry about what little value that the thing is worth diminishing even further, although it is entirely preventable.

I also wonder about the legal position of denying access to my property. 

Tinwheeler replied on 03/05/2020 10:57

Posted on 03/05/2020 10:57

I suspect the legal position is wholly with the club. They're the owners/operators, they set the conditions and they're following Govt guidelines. I'd not even consider that route in your shoes.

Whichever way you look at it, a drive to check on your caravan is not an essential journey. You could walk there for your daily exercise but it's not a trip for food or medical needs.

Tinwheeler replied on 03/05/2020 12:50

Posted on 03/05/2020 12:04 by Theevath

It's not a matter of driving or walking there. I wouldn't be allowed in when I got there!!!

Posted on 03/05/2020 12:50

I realise that but even if you were allowed in, your journey wouldn’t be essential. Catch 22.

lordsward replied on 05/05/2020 20:16

Posted on 05/05/2020 20:16

Mine is in with Marquis for storage and its chock full of food, games, music, books, DVDs, games and the like but we're not allowed in unfortunately. I drive past it on my way to work and can see that watchman on the mooch. I'm not going to raise a complaint with Marquis. But I can very much see why you are frustrated. 

Graydjames replied on 09/05/2020 09:00

Posted on 09/05/2020 09:00

I have been expounding the view that the lock-down was not strict enough nor clearly explained and that the sanctions have been too lax; but I must say I have some sympathy with the OP on this one - and particularly the view expressed above by Deleted User User.

My storage site has remained open; I have there an asset worth between £40k and £50k and the notion of not being able to check up on it during the entire period of lock-down would be a big worry. I have visited once; I did combine it with a supermarket visit albeit that I achieved this by using a different supermarket to my usual one - and thereby drove 6 miles further in total, but I do not seek to use this as some kind of excuse - just a question of achieving ends by a careful and planned, risk-based approach. Some may say that technically this breaks the lock-down rules, but the rules were too vague to ever be sure of that.

It is a risk-based matter. Even outside of lock down there might be three or four other visitors there (at most) out of some (at a guess) 500+ vans and it would be only by remote chance that I would get within 50 metres of any of them let alone 2 metres. The risk of accident exists, but by how much do you think the the odds increase given the scenario I have outlined - especially given that the journey is urban throughout?     

            

SteveL replied on 17/05/2020 10:01

Posted on 17/05/2020 09:20 by mickysf

I guess the club are rightly abiding by the government's 'guidance' related to travel, furlough and social distancing etc.. Wouldn't expect otherwise!

Posted on 17/05/2020 10:01

I can't see how maintaining social distancing would be a problem on an open air storage compound. Although they might originally have been following essential travel restrictions, those have now been lifted. That leaves the furlough regs, which means the wardens can do no work. Unless the club are offering some sort of rebate on storage fees, it now seems unreasonable to deny entry, for what potentially could be another 6 weeks, just to save on paying their staff.

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