Brake Fluid Change

JohnM20 replied on 29/11/2019 16:05

Posted on 29/11/2019 16:05

My Ford Mondeo has a service interval of every 2 years or at 18,000 miles whichever is the sooner. I have been told that Ford now recommend a change of brake fluid every two years - ie at every service in my case. This seems to be a new recommendation. Is it common with other makes of cars or is it just another main dealer rip off?

Tinwheeler replied on 29/11/2019 16:13

Posted on 29/11/2019 16:13

It’s not new. My Ford dealer tried to push for a brake fluid change every time I had my Focus serviced and that was annually. I had it done after about 3 years. 

Only you can decide but my feeling is that it would be included in the service if it was essential.

JohnM20 replied on 29/11/2019 16:24

Posted on 29/11/2019 16:24

Good point about it being included in the service if essential, TW. I did have it done at the previous service when it was 'recommended'. That was at 29,500 miles. I've now only done a further 16,800 miles and the dealer has recommended it again.

Thinking back to may early years and maintaining my own cars, my dad, an Army vehicle mechanic, told me the fluid needed changing if the brakes started to feel a bit spongy and about every five years or so otherwise as the fluid absorbed water. I would have expected modern fluid to have improved in quality not, apparently, got worse.

replied on 29/11/2019 16:33

Posted on 29/11/2019 16:33

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Tinwheeler replied on 29/11/2019 16:37

Posted on 29/11/2019 16:37

In my opinion the fluid is more likely to deteriorate on a low mileage car than a high as it becomes prone to collecting condensation, and near on 17k miles in two years isn’t particularly low mileage in my book, John,

Our car (Hyundai) has done about 7k in two years and the fluid was changed as it was included in the service. 🤷🏻‍♂️

replied on 29/11/2019 16:55

Posted on 29/11/2019 16:37 by Tinwheeler

In my opinion the fluid is more likely to deteriorate on a low mileage car than a high as it becomes prone to collecting condensation, and near on 17k miles in two years isn’t particularly low mileage in my book, John,

Our car (Hyundai) has done about 7k in two years and the fluid was changed as it was included in the service. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 29/11/2019 16:55

In my opinion the fluid is more likely to deteriorate on a low mileage car than a high as it becomes prone to collecting condensation, 

Not disagreeing but it seems strange. A brake system is bled of air and is largely a contained system filled with brake fluid. The condensation comes from water vapour in the air. How does that enter the system? The only air fluid interface might be thought to be the breather hole in the reservoir. Any water vapour entering will be a very small amount and the water is lighter than the brake fluid.  

EmilysDad replied on 29/11/2019 16:56

Posted on 29/11/2019 16:56

As above, brake fluid is hygroscopic ie absorbs water. Dealers & garages cover their bum by recommending a fluid change at 2 years irrespective of mileage. There are testers though that will check for water in the fluid ... how good they are, I've no idea. 

I'd be dubious of whether a complete change is ever done these day as there is a load of fluid in the ABS modulator that needs pumping through too ... undecided

EmilysDad replied on 29/11/2019 17:00

Posted on 29/11/2019 16:55 by

In my opinion the fluid is more likely to deteriorate on a low mileage car than a high as it becomes prone to collecting condensation, 

Not disagreeing but it seems strange. A brake system is bled of air and is largely a contained system filled with brake fluid. The condensation comes from water vapour in the air. How does that enter the system? The only air fluid interface might be thought to be the breather hole in the reservoir. Any water vapour entering will be a very small amount and the water is lighter than the brake fluid.  

Posted on 29/11/2019 17:00

+1 

obbernockle replied on 29/11/2019 17:20

Posted on 29/11/2019 17:20

Brake fluid can become hot under extreme conditions and it is designed to accommodate this however, if it regularly gets hot some constituents will be expended. It will discolour and possibly air bubbles will introduce more corrosion. in short is can deteriorate. However, modern braking systems are so well advanced and such great margins provided that non of these degrading processes are likely to the average motorist. The service engineer may recommend it but only after inspection. The service receptionist may offer all sorts of extras- new coolant sir? All the same - lovely extra profit. My advice is to stick strictly to the service schedule and no more or less. 

obbernockle replied on 29/11/2019 17:32

Posted on 29/11/2019 17:26 by huskydog

Good to see the armchair mechanics know more than the people who make the cars sealed

Posted on 29/11/2019 17:32

Some armchair mechanics actually are qualified and experienced in the subject. Even in the design and development of them. Even having a spent over 40 years in the profession. Not all, but some.

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