Electronic handbrake

toddsontour replied on 25/10/2022 16:38

Posted on 25/10/2022 16:38

I’m looking to replace my aging xtrail  but am concerned that most cars nowadays are fitted with electronic parking brake,are these easy to use ie hill start with caravan on.just seems another gimmick that we could do without.Have been told if you have a flat battery car cannot be moved.would welcome comments from fellow towers.

ChocolateTrees replied on 27/10/2022 15:19

Posted on 25/10/2022 21:44 by EmilysDad

The EPB on our Volvo won't release unless you have your seat belt on

That's Volvo off my list of 'new' cars then ..... IIRC VAG cars do the same ?? Surely it's up to the driver to decide when the parking/hand brake is released.

I was sceptical about an EPB when I got my ML350, but by & large, it only applies when I apply it - it does apply itself sometimes though I've yet to work out how/why

Posted on 27/10/2022 15:19

In my experience, the Volvo (and now Polestar) EPB wont _auto_ release unless you have your seatbelt on. If you chose to manually release it by pulling a button, it will. 

If you have your seatbelt on, put it in drive and press the go pedal, EPB releases and off you go. 

EmilysDad replied on 27/10/2022 16:39

Posted on 27/10/2022 15:19 by ChocolateTrees

In my experience, the Volvo (and now Polestar) EPB wont _auto_ release unless you have your seatbelt on. If you chose to manually release it by pulling a button, it will. 

If you have your seatbelt on, put it in drive and press the go pedal, EPB releases and off you go. 

Posted on 27/10/2022 16:39

So you need your seat belt on to just move your car on the drive unless you manually release the EPB? 🤷‍♂️ My hand/parking brake is rarely used anyway ... it's an Auto & goes into Park when parked up .... it's not going to roll away. Does an all electric car have a conventional gearbox? Or is it all done on the motor?

In normal circumstances, if my EPB is actually applied it will also auto release if I set off, like wise HOLD which uses the 'normal' brake system & doesn't use the EPB as some cars seem to do.

Navigateur replied on 27/10/2022 16:53

Posted on 27/10/2022 16:53

Cars still have a normal key to get inside for such times the battery is as flat as a witches.

Indeed, but the mechanical key unlocks only the door with the keyhole, and not the other doors if a "dead lock" function has been used. Does not unlock electrically operated tailgate/boot, which is where most people would keep any tools or battery charger they might be carrying.

replied on 27/10/2022 17:17

Posted on 27/10/2022 16:39 by EmilysDad

So you need your seat belt on to just move your car on the drive unless you manually release the EPB? 🤷‍♂️ My hand/parking brake is rarely used anyway ... it's an Auto & goes into Park when parked up .... it's not going to roll away. Does an all electric car have a conventional gearbox? Or is it all done on the motor?

In normal circumstances, if my EPB is actually applied it will also auto release if I set off, like wise HOLD which uses the 'normal' brake system & doesn't use the EPB as some cars seem to do.

Posted on 27/10/2022 17:17

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EmilysDad replied on 27/10/2022 21:39

Posted on 27/10/2022 16:53 by Navigateur

Cars still have a normal key to get inside for such times the battery is as flat as a witches.

Indeed, but the mechanical key unlocks only the door with the keyhole, and not the other doors if a "dead lock" function has been used. Does not unlock electrically operated tailgate/boot, which is where most people would keep any tools or battery charger they might be carrying.

Posted on 27/10/2022 21:39

 but once you're in the car you can pop the bonnet & either replace, charge or jump the car's battery & then you can use the remote fob as normal. And the 3 box saloons I had, you could access the boot from inside the car .... but I appreciate that's not always the case.

EmilysDad replied on 27/10/2022 21:42

Posted on 27/10/2022 17:17 by

I am using my parking brake now but earlier this year when having problems clearing the parking brake warning light I did nearly 3 months trying (whenever I could remember) not to apply it at all just leaving it in park. . Just a little dubious of leaving it on a "pawl" in the gearbox

Posted on 27/10/2022 21:42

I've never had a problem in 30 years of owning various 'proper' autos of leaving Paul to hold things. 😉

Navigateur replied on 28/10/2022 08:34

Posted on 28/10/2022 08:34

Small Paul will indeed hold things on the level (in most cases).  Does not do well if the vehicle gets bumped though.

Is your 30 years similar to Triggers Boom though?

Vulcan replied on 28/10/2022 09:26

Posted on 27/10/2022 21:42 by EmilysDad

I've never had a problem in 30 years of owning various 'proper' autos of leaving Paul to hold things. 😉

Posted on 28/10/2022 09:26

I am surprised the ML does not apply the EPB automatically when P is selected as on my Land Rover. That aside as I have pointed out in previous posts it is an offence to leave an unattended vehicle without the handbrake applied.

EmilysDad replied on 28/10/2022 10:32

Posted on 28/10/2022 08:34 by Navigateur

Small Paul will indeed hold things on the level (in most cases).  Does not do well if the vehicle gets bumped though.

Is your 30 years similar to Triggers Boom though?

Posted on 28/10/2022 10:32

If left on a hill, parking brake then Park.

EmilysDad replied on 28/10/2022 10:36

Posted on 28/10/2022 09:26 by Vulcan

I am surprised the ML does not apply the EPB automatically when P is selected as on my Land Rover. That aside as I have pointed out in previous posts it is an offence to leave an unattended vehicle without the handbrake applied.

Posted on 28/10/2022 10:36

No ... EPB doesn't apply when Park is selected. Turning the ignition off or opening the driver's door will automatically put the car in Park though.

Anyway back to OP ... releasing an EPB is no more difficult to release than a conventional handbrake.

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