5g Masts

JVB66 replied on 03/07/2022 10:10

Posted on 03/07/2022 10:10

In our area the company that owns the 3 network are trying to get permission from the LA  planning dept to install Very high masts to overcome it seems the poor signal strength of the 5g. network ,and the areas they want to install these monsters,are not considered by the company just hoping it seems there will be nil or little opposition ,

So be warned as the applications and letters to local residents are very few ,it is only by word of mouth from neighbours,that they are coming to light,

One application near us was very near a primary school

Another was in a conservation area ,and was onl picked up by the local history society,

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Tinwheeler replied on 03/07/2022 22:22

Posted on 03/07/2022 22:22

For your information, although 5G will not replace 4G in technical terms, it may very well do so in terms of demand. It will be needed to run certain facilities/applications so the masts will be needed wherever the demand is, whether that be city centres or rural areas, in order to provide national coverage.

There is always a trade off between supplying technology and the impact such provision may have on society as a whole. No gain without pain. 

cyberyacht replied on 04/07/2022 11:52

Posted on 04/07/2022 11:52

There seems to be a mad rush for 5G when the telecoms companies haven't even got around to providing a 4G network with virtually universal coverage. If they can't do that, what hope for a comprehensive 5G one?

Do we really need 5G. Is it essential to be able to stream/download an HD film on the move in nanoseconds? Realistically a good 4G signal is adequate for 99% of the stuff we want.

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Tinwheeler replied on 04/07/2022 12:10

Posted on 04/07/2022 12:10

In terms of domestic usage for the fuddy duddies like you and I, CY, I agree but we don't make the world go around and businesses have different needs.

The features such as fast downloads, streaming and gaming are very important to some people, even if they're not to us, and I guess we need to appreciate we're not all the same.🤷‍♂️

Metheven replied on 04/07/2022 12:12

Posted on 04/07/2022 12:12

In a similar vein, I have fibre to the house and because KCOM will not share the roads underground ducting, a rival firm 'MS3 network' is going to dig up a whole length of unblemished pavement to lay cables and no planning permission is needed other than to reinstate to council regulations. So we will have a dark tarmacked trench width down an unblemished grey pavement.

Other streets are even worse where underground ducting won't be shared, another fibre firm are installing 5 metre poles and will overhead cable to residents if they wish to change supplier, a backward step, again no planning permission needed. 

brue replied on 04/07/2022 14:42

Posted on 03/07/2022 10:10 by JVB66

In our area the company that owns the 3 network are trying to get permission from the LA  planning dept to install Very high masts to overcome it seems the poor signal strength of the 5g. network ,and the areas they want to install these monsters,are not considered by the company just hoping it seems there will be nil or little opposition ,

So be warned as the applications and letters to local residents are very few ,it is only by word of mouth from neighbours,that they are coming to light,

One application near us was very near a primary school

Another was in a conservation area ,and was onl picked up by the local history society,

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Posted on 04/07/2022 14:42

If you read up about 5G transmission it doesn't necessarily mean that large masts have to be used, 5G transmission is reputed to need less in the way of large structures for transmission! The signal strength should be stronger not weaker, that's the whole point of each generation upgrade. 5G means fifth generation, using higher frequencies than previous "generations."

OFCOM 5G

My details come from elsewhere, Ofcom offers a very basic view but it was easy to find.

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Takethedogalong replied on 04/07/2022 15:14

Posted on 04/07/2022 15:14

Speaking as one who has happily enjoyed a TV signal from two of the highest structures in England, namely Emley Moor and Holme Moss, then progress needs to continue. I am sure windmills were possible considered witchcraft, child killers, disease spreaders back in the 1300’s by some. But the vast amount of folks just needed the flour to survive.

I came across a huge project happening near where we live, quite by accident the other day. Part of the TPT near Dunford Bridge has been diverted, must have cost thousands to do. Reason? National Grid are at last taking down the unsightly pylons and everything is going underground. Progress.

DavidKlyne replied on 04/07/2022 19:07

Posted on 04/07/2022 12:12 by Metheven

In a similar vein, I have fibre to the house and because KCOM will not share the roads underground ducting, a rival firm 'MS3 network' is going to dig up a whole length of unblemished pavement to lay cables and no planning permission is needed other than to reinstate to council regulations. So we will have a dark tarmacked trench width down an unblemished grey pavement.

Other streets are even worse where underground ducting won't be shared, another fibre firm are installing 5 metre poles and will overhead cable to residents if they wish to change supplier, a backward step, again no planning permission needed. 

Posted on 04/07/2022 19:07

We had the same situation in Milton Keynes. Probably for 30 years plus, after MK was started every house was connected to BT ducts. These were also used to provide conventional telephone connections and TV, later ADSL and in recent years FTTP and FTTC but at best internet speed were around 70 Mbps. Then came along City Fibre who wanted to install high speed internet fibre, up to 900mbps and they had to dig up all the roads because BT wouldn't cooperate!

With regard to 5G, well technology marches on. For everyone who doesn't want a mast there are probably hundreds who do. No harm in trying to persuade local authorities to be sensitive where the masts are situated but you have to be careful as you can't push new technology back.

David

 

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