Tier 2 CLs Re-Opening 2nd December

BirchHillFarmCL replied on 28/11/2020 12:02

Posted on 28/11/2020 12:02

Re-opening on 2nd December - Birch Hill - an award-winning hideaway in the beautiful lake-lands of Shropshire for members of the Caravan and Motorhome Club.

Ellesmere is a peaceful friendly market town in North Shropshire. Our CL is 2 miles from North Wales, 5 miles from Cheshire and 9 miles from Lady Margaret's Park Caravan and Motorhome Club site.

  • £17 per night including EHU. No charge to use our Wi-Fi.  Grassed hardstandings.

We are in Covid Tier 2 and are only accepting bookings from Caravan and Motorhome Club members who live in Tier 1 or Tier 2 areas.

For more details, availability and online booking, please see our website - https://www.birchhill.co.uk/

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/certificated-locations/england/shropshire/ellesmere/birch-hill/

Ian Kelly
01691 622951
Holiday@BirchHill.co.uk

Birch Hill, The Cross, Ellesmere, Shropshire, SY12 0LP
www.BirchHill.co.uk

Birch Hill Farm - an award-winning hideaway in the beautiful lake-lands of Shropshire for members of the Caravan and Motorhome Club

If non-caravanning friends wish to join you, please see our new Glamping Pods - www.ArchersMeadow.co.uk

 

Wherenext replied on 04/12/2020 13:40

Posted on 04/12/2020 13:40

I think you will find that most members that use CLs are fully aware of the need for CL owners to turn a profit, particularly those members who regularly use them.

I have seen prices increase quite substantially this year but some of this will undoubtedly be due to the loss of revenue sustained through the closures due to various lockdowns and some of it will be the increase in usage of electricity. The LVs of today certainly have more equipment that will use up that resource and more and more members are touring year round, so I do understand that there will be those owners that will need a recalibration of their pricing. 

In the last 2 years since the S.D. came out I have stayed on about 30 Cls and a couple of them are charging for full facilities when they are not providing them. One example this year was an increase of 33% from £15 to £18 after lockdown finished for basically a grass field that had been used for over 15 years as a CL but no toilet facility which was closed due the pandemic. The field was undulating and the recently mowed grass was not picked up. The Elsan point was basic in the extreme. I won't be visiting again. Yet, a different CL had increased their price by the same percentage and provided better cleaner facilities and I was happy to pay the price. It's not all price orientated from the consumers point of view.

I have no wish for you as a CL owner to subsidise my stay but some members may have to reduce the number of nights away per year to fit into their budget and others may decide that they will stay on club sites in low season as prices may well be close enough to each other.

I sincerely wish you well and if it means that you have to charge, say £20 per night to survive and people are willing to fill your CL then good luck to you. I would just like to see value for money. If that means a higher price but top class facilities then I will pay it if it suits me but I won't pay it if the prices are too steep for what I will be getting.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/12/2020 17:06

Posted on 03/12/2020 11:31 by KimT

As a CL owner, I think club members should understand if CLs don't make some return on their investment then CLs will close,and their choice of where to go will get smaller,and probably prices will go up,because of supply and demand.Whether a hobby or a business costs need to be covered or we are subsidising members stays.

Posted on 04/12/2020 17:06

Well said KT👍🏻, you need more of your fellow CL owners to stand up & fight their corner. I’m afraid the words ‘fair price’ rarely compute with some folk. If I see anything sub £15 I wonder what the catch is. I agree with your summation, it’s supply & demand the less supply or the more demand the costs go up.

JVB66 replied on 04/12/2020 17:11

Posted on 04/12/2020 17:06 by Rocky 2 buckets

Well said KT👍🏻, you need more of your fellow CL owners to stand up & fight their corner. I’m afraid the words ‘fair price’ rarely compute with some folk. If I see anything sub £15 I wonder what the catch is. I agree with your summation, it’s supply & demand the less supply or the more demand the costs go up.

Posted on 04/12/2020 17:11

I really have to agree with you on this one,surprised

Wherenext replied on 04/12/2020 18:37

Posted on 04/12/2020 18:37

Well I am sorry Rocky but I beg to disagree.

You are looking at it in "Black and White". There are many Cls that we have stayed on in the last 2 years that were below £15, your apparent benchmark, and most of them were more than adequate for our needs, and a couple of them exemplary. Yes, the best site we have stayed on was an £18 per night site but even that had faults that some of the £14 ones didn't.

Some of the pricing of CLs will come from location, pure and simple. We have stayed on similar sites with regard to facilities provided in the Cotswolds and Herefordshire and found a £3 uplift per night for the Cotswolds and yes, I do understand the supply and demand argument but that is not to decry those sites at less than £15 as "having a catch".

JVB66 replied on 04/12/2020 20:12

Posted on 04/12/2020 20:12

The "older generation" as most who post on CT seems are? are not "up to speed" as we are told when it comes to modern pricing of most things and the salaries that these days mostly go with it, and expectations that of the service and facilities that are far now past a field with a water tap and dump facilities

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/12/2020 20:40

Posted on 04/12/2020 17:11 by JVB66

I really have to agree with you on this one,surprised

Posted on 04/12/2020 20:40

Don’t look shocked JV I’m a thoroughly agreeable guy👍🏻😊

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 04/12/2020 20:42

Posted on 04/12/2020 18:37 by Wherenext

Well I am sorry Rocky but I beg to disagree.

You are looking at it in "Black and White". There are many Cls that we have stayed on in the last 2 years that were below £15, your apparent benchmark, and most of them were more than adequate for our needs, and a couple of them exemplary. Yes, the best site we have stayed on was an £18 per night site but even that had faults that some of the £14 ones didn't.

Some of the pricing of CLs will come from location, pure and simple. We have stayed on similar sites with regard to facilities provided in the Cotswolds and Herefordshire and found a £3 uplift per night for the Cotswolds and yes, I do understand the supply and demand argument but that is not to decry those sites at less than £15 as "having a catch".

Posted on 04/12/2020 20:42

Ah but WN I was approaching it from the perspective of a CL owner whereas you approached it from a user of CL’s👍🏻

Wherenext replied on 04/12/2020 20:50

Posted on 04/12/2020 20:12 by JVB66

The "older generation" as most who post on CT seems are? are not "up to speed" as we are told when it comes to modern pricing of most things and the salaries that these days mostly go with it, and expectations that of the service and facilities that are far now past a field with a water tap and dump facilities

Posted on 04/12/2020 20:50

Who are you referring to?  Me?  I would like to hear your explanation.

Wherenext replied on 04/12/2020 20:56

Posted on 04/12/2020 20:42 by Rocky 2 buckets

Ah but WN I was approaching it from the perspective of a CL owner whereas you approached it from a user of CL’s👍🏻

Posted on 04/12/2020 20:56

So your statement that "If I see anything sub £15 I wonder what the catch is." is written from a CL owners point of view and not as I read as a CL user? 🤔 Strange way of putting over an owners point of view. That sounds like a buyer not a seller.

 

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