New travel restrictions for Spain effective 23.11

Oxfordeagle15 replied on 13/11/2020 21:44

Posted on 13/11/2020 21:44

Following issued by FCDO today .... 

"On arrival, travellers entering Spain from the UK will not be required to self-isolate. However, from 23 November, all passengers (including children) travelling to Spanish airports and ports from ‘risk’ countries (the website is in Spanish, the list of ‘at risk’ countries is at the end of the document), as determined by the European Centre for Disease Prevention & Control will be required to present a negative PCR (swab) test taken within no more than 72 hours prior to arrival, in order to enter the country. The UK is currently on the ‘risk’ countries list and passengers arriving from the UK are therefore subject to this requirement"

Considering most crossings take 28 hours or more - this is going to make the obtaining of the PCR nearly impossible to get.  Having spoken to a number of clinics today - most are unable to confirm even a 48 hour turnaround.

Brittany Ferries will find they are sailing empty if they are unable to get a waiver on this which I should imagine is going to be very unlikely.

Looks like anyone thinking of some winter sunshine will have to make alternative plans ... not sure if the requirement also applies to coming by road from France but you probably will need this PCR to enter France anyway once it opens.

Anyone found a way round this?

replied on 03/03/2021 13:15

Posted on 03/03/2021 13:15

Probably wouldnt be sat with a healthy dose of covid-19 vaccination in our bodies if we had not voted "leave", and looking at the prospect of being able to travel with a degree of safety.

Even when UK was an EU Member, it had the right to use a delegated power to start its own vaccination programme. This was confirmed by Dr June Raine, Head of MHRA at the start of December 2020. The 'couldn't have gone solo if we had still been in EU' is a myth.

Steve

Rufs replied on 03/03/2021 13:49

Posted on 03/03/2021 13:15 by

Probably wouldnt be sat with a healthy dose of covid-19 vaccination in our bodies if we had not voted "leave", and looking at the prospect of being able to travel with a degree of safety.

Even when UK was an EU Member, it had the right to use a delegated power to start its own vaccination programme. This was confirmed by Dr June Raine, Head of MHRA at the start of December 2020. The 'couldn't have gone solo if we had still been in EU' is a myth.

Steve

Posted on 03/03/2021 13:49

I think the operative word in my post is "Probably"

def...almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell

moulesy replied on 03/03/2021 15:20

Posted on 03/03/2021 13:49 by Rufs

I think the operative word in my post is "Probably"

def...almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell

Posted on 03/03/2021 15:20

But that "operative word" is simply wrong isn't it? There's no "almost certainly" or "as far as one knows" as is clear from  Steve's more knowledgeable post. Even Gavin Williamson was forced to admit that the "better off out" line was false in this case.

Rufs replied on 03/03/2021 15:43

Posted on 03/03/2021 15:43

We will never know if being in would have made an appreciable differance to going it alone or not, remember, there was a lot of pressure from the opposition to "not go it alone",  which could have held a much greater sway if we had been in the EU, being out meant the government had a much easier task to bat aside any pressure from the EU/Opposition and certainly with respect to controlling covid-19, making travel a very real possibility later this year, and of course all the NHS benefits etc that go with it .

SeasideBill replied on 04/03/2021 19:59

Posted on 03/03/2021 15:43 by Rufs

We will never know if being in would have made an appreciable differance to going it alone or not, remember, there was a lot of pressure from the opposition to "not go it alone",  which could have held a much greater sway if we had been in the EU, being out meant the government had a much easier task to bat aside any pressure from the EU/Opposition and certainly with respect to controlling covid-19, making travel a very real possibility later this year, and of course all the NHS benefits etc that go with it .

Posted on 04/03/2021 19:59

The European Commission were proposing a central procurement process for purchasing vaccines as an imperative back in October. If the UK was not leaving the EU it may have chosen to follow this strategy - who knows? As always with Brexit issues, you could call it either way.

replied on 04/03/2021 20:34

Posted on 03/03/2021 13:49 by Rufs

I think the operative word in my post is "Probably"

def...almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell

Posted on 04/03/2021 20:34

Probably = in all likelihood

Possibly = something that might happen

So, to suggest that UK in all likelihood would not have been able to pursue its own vaccination programme is simply wrong, because UK had a pre-existing power that was not contingent upon any other event

It is possible that a delay in implementing the vaccination programme may have caused you orme to become infcted with COVID, but that is only speculation

Steve

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