Travelling after Brexit

RowenaBCAMC replied on 04/02/2019 14:56

Posted on 04/02/2019 14:56

A number of specific questions have been raised about what might happen after 29 March 2019 when the UK leaves the European Union (EU). We've identified some information and advice for people travelling abroad with caravans and motorhomes in the hope that it will help you find out what impact Brexit may have on your holiday plans. You can find this here: Travelling after Brexit

We will also try and keep you updated with relevant information on this discussion and please feel free to share information and advice with each other. We do ask that no conversations about politics devhttps://www.caravanclub.co.uk/overseas-holidays/useful-information/travelling-after-brexit/elop - as you know this can often get heated! As such any political comments will be removed but we would really appreciate any constructive comments and information shared. 

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Oneputt replied on 16/02/2019 09:29

Posted on 15/02/2019 15:47 by Lutz

Frankly I don't understand how anything other than the 1968 version can be issued in the UK because the UK only signed the 1968 agreement, not any earlier ones.

Posted on 16/02/2019 09:29

If need be I will go with Lutz's thoughts particularly I have no plans to go Spain

ValDa replied on 16/02/2019 09:51

Posted on 16/02/2019 09:27 by Lutz

A Spanish policeman will be perfectly familiar with a Category BE licence because the categories are the same throughout Europe.

Posted on 16/02/2019 09:51

Yes, what I meant was that this supports your view that the 1949 IDP which we are being told we need, and which is being sold to us if we are going to Spain, isn't required.  However, those who want 'belt and braces' will probably buy both versions (we're a law abiding lot in the C&MC).

Out of interest, has anyone already got both IDPs, and how much difference is there in the wording between them?

eurortraveller replied on 16/02/2019 10:28

Posted on 16/02/2019 10:28

Law adding? Belt and braces? Me?  I have no intention of buying either sort of IDP.

ValDa replied on 16/02/2019 10:54

Posted on 16/02/2019 10:28 by eurortraveller

Law adding? Belt and braces? Me?  I have no intention of buying either sort of IDP.

Posted on 16/02/2019 10:54

I wouldn't expect anything else!cool

 

replied on 16/02/2019 10:56

Posted on 16/02/2019 09:51 by ValDa

Yes, what I meant was that this supports your view that the 1949 IDP which we are being told we need, and which is being sold to us if we are going to Spain, isn't required.  However, those who want 'belt and braces' will probably buy both versions (we're a law abiding lot in the C&MC).

Out of interest, has anyone already got both IDPs, and how much difference is there in the wording between them?

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Kontikiboy replied on 18/02/2019 15:30

Posted on 18/02/2019 15:30

Hi all,

Further to this string on IDP’s, I contacted DVLA last Friday and just got a reply.   Which states:

“I appreciate you contacting ourselves to seek clarification on the matter.

I can confirm, you are correct in saying the 1968 convention supersedes the 1949 convention, but only between countries which have ratified it, such as France.

Spain has not ratified 1968 convention, therefore the international relationship between the UK and Spain continues to be guided by the 1949 Convention. As such, if the UK leaves the EU without a deal, drivers travelling through France and Spain may need to carry both 1968 and 1949 IDPs.

Please visit https://www.gov.uk/guidance/international-driving-permits-for-uk-drivers-from-28-march-2019 for further information on IDPs.

I hope that this information clarifies the situation and will assist you further.”

Hope this helps!

BillC

replied on 18/02/2019 16:01

Posted on 18/02/2019 15:30 by Kontikiboy

Hi all,

Further to this string on IDP’s, I contacted DVLA last Friday and just got a reply.   Which states:

“I appreciate you contacting ourselves to seek clarification on the matter.

I can confirm, you are correct in saying the 1968 convention supersedes the 1949 convention, but only between countries which have ratified it, such as France.

Spain has not ratified 1968 convention, therefore the international relationship between the UK and Spain continues to be guided by the 1949 Convention. As such, if the UK leaves the EU without a deal, drivers travelling through France and Spain may need to carry both 1968 and 1949 IDPs.

Please visit https://www.gov.uk/guidance/international-driving-permits-for-uk-drivers-from-28-march-2019 for further information on IDPs.

I hope that this information clarifies the situation and will assist you further.”

Hope this helps!

BillC

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Lutz replied on 18/02/2019 17:41

Posted on 18/02/2019 17:41

The reply from the DVLA doesn't make sense. If a country didn't sign the 1949 agreement but only the later 1968 one, it would be unable to issue the 1949 version of an IDP. Consequently, people from those countries wouldn't be able to drive in Spain if DVLA's reasoning were true.

ValDa replied on 19/02/2019 07:16

Posted on 19/02/2019 07:16

The new Government guidance, issued on the 5th February 2019, makes interesting reading in that it now mentions that a 1926 version of the IDP is available - and may be required for Leichtenstein!

Travelling in the EU after Brexit.

There is also mention that if a driver is involved in an RTA in the EU then:

From 29 March 2019, in the event that there is no EU Exit deal, UK residents involved in a road traffic accident in an EU or EEA country should not expect to be able to make a claim in respect of that accident via a UK-based Claims Representative or the UK Motor Insurers’ Bureau (MIB).

Instead, UK residents involved in a road accident may need to bring a claim against either the driver or the insurer of the vehicle in the EU or EEA country where the accident happened. This may involve bringing the claim in the local language.

The website makes interesting reading because there is also a section on registering trailers!

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