Amenity blocks closed until 17th May

NutsyH replied on 09/03/2021 17:17

Posted on 09/03/2021 17:17

Anyone realised this. I just don't get it. Why can pubs open their shared toilets for outdoor diners / drinkers,  motorway services shared toilets never been closed, but caravan & camping sites can open 12th April but can't open their amenities until 17th May. And I would bet that most site toilets are far more hygienic and cleaned more often than pubs and motorway services. Bonkers.

Moderator Comment - I think this thread has run its course now. When the off topic posts outnumber the on topic ones it is time to close. 

Tinwheeler replied on 11/03/2021 10:27

Posted on 11/03/2021 10:08 by GTP

I mooted a similar idea a couple years ago..Make all pitches fully serviced and charge a flat fee across the network..I think i mentioned around £40pn at the time...obviously on many sites that has now been surpassed even for a couple...I also mentioned a charge for more that 2 dogs....but I had to put my tin hat on for many moths after that !!!

Posted on 11/03/2021 10:27

And for those of us who have no need of serviced pitches you suggest.......what?

SteveL replied on 11/03/2021 10:42

Posted on 11/03/2021 10:42

Whilst I agree that the provision of a number of service pitches on site is a good thing. The ones we have used in freezing weather were a waste of money. The nice warm facilities block where the shower worked, as its supply pipe wasn’t frozen, was very useful.

Cornersteady replied on 11/03/2021 10:53

Posted on 11/03/2021 10:42 by SteveL

Whilst I agree that the provision of a number of service pitches on site is a good thing. The ones we have used in freezing weather were a waste of money. The nice warm facilities block where the shower worked, as its supply pipe wasn’t frozen, was very useful.

Posted on 11/03/2021 10:53

Yes that has happened to me. Actually it was the waste pipe and the tap that got frozen, the aquaroll and pump was fine

DavidKlyne replied on 11/03/2021 11:36

Posted on 10/03/2021 14:40 by ErnieJH

I'm probably on my own here but my ideal site would be one with no facilities but with fully serviced pitches. Why doesn't the club have any? they would be much cheaper to build and run. One alternative is to make use of facility blocks chargeable in the same way that having a water supply and a drain on pitches is chargeable. Not that it will ever happen of course.

Posted on 11/03/2021 11:36

I don't think you are on your own. We could certainly cope with sites like that. The Club does have at least one site which partially meets your requirements and that is Hebden Bridge which does not have a facility block but does have half a dozen serviced pitches. I am sure I have heard they want to add more so it could be a blueprint for the future.

One does have to add something of a health warning though. If the Club is going to invest in new sites which are often, these days, existing commercial sites which they refurbish. The cost of buying such sites requires a  financial return which would probably not be met if they just converted it to serviced pitches only with no toilet block. This is principally because there would be a expectation pitch fees would be cheaper which might not go hand in hand with the upfront costs of buying the site?

David

cyberyacht replied on 11/03/2021 12:29

Posted on 11/03/2021 12:29

Using my favourite cruise ship analogy, I pay for a Balcony cabin but, for whatever reason, the door to the balcony is locked for the duration of the trip and effectively becomes merely a 'ocean view' cabin, the latter attracting a lower price. Why should I pay for something that I am not getting? Before Corners or anyone else challenges this, how many balconies would they sell at higher prices if customers knew they wouldn't get the product they are paying for?

LLM replied on 11/03/2021 12:30

Posted on 10/03/2021 14:29 by LLM

Just received this from one of our booked sites.

Greetings from REDACTED.

As you are probably aware, the government have recently announced their COVID-19 ‘roadmap’ which gives us a provisional opening date of 12th April 2021.  Although we’re able to welcome campers from this date, sadly we won’t be able to open any shared facilities (showers, toilets, washing-up areas, etc.) until at least 17th May  Again, this is only a provisional date as set out in the roadmap. 

Because you’re booked to stay with us during this period, we are reaching out to enquire as to whether you have your own facilities and can self-contain in your unit.  If this is the case and you are still happy to visit us for your current dates, please respond to this email or call our office on the number below to let us know you're still coming. 

If you do not have your own facilities, we will instead look to move your booking to another date after 17th May when (government permitting) our facilities will re-open.  To get your booking moved, again please respond to this email or call our office on the number below. 

Please note:

We are already extremely busy for the May half term and school summer holidays so if you need to move your booking, it is unlikely we’ll be able to accommodate you during these periods.  If you aren’t able to visit us during term-time, we can instead move your booking to our 2022 season. 

We look forward to hearing from you soon. 

Kind regards

Personal, helpful and pleasant.

Posted on 11/03/2021 12:30

Just had a back up note to say they are going to reduce the price whilst the facilities are not available smile.  

GTP replied on 11/03/2021 12:36

Posted on 11/03/2021 10:27 by Tinwheeler

And for those of us who have no need of serviced pitches you suggest.......what?

Posted on 11/03/2021 12:36

TW...My mooted idea was that the cost would be built into the site fees...just as the many other 'facilities' the club provide....which in  turn  could be argued against as not required by many of the membership. The fact the pitch has water and waste is irrelevant.

If you look at the take up of pitches on club sites..it doesn't take much to realise that there is a much needed requirement for more serviced pitches..

As for cost ...take a look at most of the commercial sites, nearly all have fully serviced pitches...at less cost than the club.

And...in Europe SP's are virtually the 'Norm'..

 

EmilysDad replied on 11/03/2021 12:41

Posted on 11/03/2021 12:30 by LLM

Just had a back up note to say they are going to reduce the price whilst the facilities are not available smile.  

Posted on 11/03/2021 12:41

the club wouldn't reduce the fees last year for sites where the facilities block was closed .... the gist of their reply was that it costs about the same to keep a facilities site open as it does a none facilities site .... I'm sure there's some logic there somewhere 

Cornersteady replied on 11/03/2021 12:41

Posted on 11/03/2021 12:29 by cyberyacht

Using my favourite cruise ship analogy, I pay for a Balcony cabin but, for whatever reason, the door to the balcony is locked for the duration of the trip and effectively becomes merely a 'ocean view' cabin, the latter attracting a lower price. Why should I pay for something that I am not getting? Before Corners or anyone else challenges this, how many balconies would they sell at higher prices if customers knew they wouldn't get the product they are paying for?

Posted on 11/03/2021 12:41

 Why should I pay for something that I am not getting?

Again totally different, if you or one is paying for something that you are not getting that you have every right to feel cheated. But if you knew that it would be like that and still bought it then you are not being cheated, it is simply your decision.

how many balconies would they sell at higher prices if customers knew they wouldn't get the product they are paying for?

Again not applicable to a club site booking, as at time of booking the club has not sold you anything, you have not paid anything. You might have a point if you had paid a deposit and then were still being charged full price, but as you know this does not happen on a club booking. 

The club is selling it's pitches without facilities at this price (at whatever VAT rate is applicable) rightly or wrongly. One knows the price, one knows what one is getting. No one is being forced to buy or pay. 

As to how many cabins would they sell is just irrelevant, it is how many pitches the club will sell. And judging by the number of people who can't wait to get on club sites that doesn't seem to be a problem?

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