Club sites

ChrissieR replied on 18/06/2019 17:09

Posted on 18/06/2019 17:09

What determines the nightly rate at club sites?  I have just searched my two local sites, for the same weekend one is £36 for two nights, the other £47??

replied on 19/06/2019 09:07

Posted on 19/06/2019 09:07

We are talking UK sites though David wink

Tinwheeler replied on 19/06/2019 10:04

Posted on 19/06/2019 09:07 by

We are talking UK sites though David wink

Posted on 19/06/2019 10:04

That’s the crux of it and unless we know which sites are cited, it’s impossible to guess at the reasons for pricing. 

I’m paying £18 at the moment but it’s no more relevant that David’s example so I won’t bore you with details. 

huskydog replied on 19/06/2019 10:43

Posted on 19/06/2019 09:04 by

£18 is about the upper end of what we pay through our off season trips i.e outside July and August and apart from a CL we use once a year (£16) we never stay anywhere without facilities. Paying less than that at the moment in that "cheap" country where staff work for peanuts wink

You are fond of quoting "the real world" well this this is real and the usual sort  of rate to be found throughout Europe.  The "unreal"world is paying club rates for what is provided and thinking it's a bargain.

 

Posted on 19/06/2019 10:43

Just to keep a balance in the "real world " , found a site in Slovenia ,Terme Catez between August and December is 44 euro a night , and there's me thinking its soooo cheap out there cool

back to over here ,if it's a location I want ,I'll pay it 

eurortraveller replied on 19/06/2019 11:05

Posted on 18/06/2019 17:09 by ChrissieR

What determines the nightly rate at club sites?  I have just searched my two local sites, for the same weekend one is £36 for two nights, the other £47??

Posted on 19/06/2019 11:05

One site may have two wardens, the other may have four. If the Club is charging those staff costs to each separate site then one may be cheaper to operate than the other. 

Oneputt replied on 19/06/2019 11:23

Posted on 19/06/2019 11:23

At least over here staff are paid at the national minimum wage not peanuts 🥜 

Wildwood replied on 19/06/2019 12:07

Posted on 19/06/2019 12:07

The site charge is made up of many different things. but they all add up to the cost of running the site and that of individual pitches.

Probably the location has the biggest effect. This determines the land values which reflects the cost of either purchase or rent.

The site will pay council tax which again varies by council and location within the area. These two are enormously variable as city centre sites like York Rowntree will have very high overheads and country sites in m ore remote spots like Englethwaite Hall will pay far less.

Facilities also cost so again Englethwaite Hall will save as it has no toilet block. Hillhead has most and is expensive, nearby Steamer Key even has no hook ups and is far cheaper.

There are other variables which will even include the size of the site and its useage and staff costs.

Basically you need to add up all the anticipated costs for the site and see what income is needed and base the costs on that.

 

replied on 19/06/2019 12:26

Posted on 19/06/2019 12:26

I just about disagree with everything posted.

Coca Cola is the example I used to explain to the kids why a thing is priced at what it is.

Nothing to do with cost plus a set percentage profit. Its purely down to how much they can charge, which is in my opinion why the club or any leisure outlet, company charge what they do.

 

 

Takethedogalong replied on 19/06/2019 13:30

Posted on 19/06/2019 13:30

My father taught me a valuable early budgeting lesson as a child. He said that knowing the price of something is very easy. Understanding and appreciating the value of something is a whole lot different. 

While ever there are members who perceive value for money at a given site, and are willing to pay what it costs, then a business (in this case, The Club) will sell that site for as much as it can. If visitors start finding better value for money elsewhere, and attendances drop, then a change in the price might occur. (Which it does, hence the MWD and other offers).

We have never just blindly booked Club Sites in preference to any other sort of site, and we shop around in terms of arranging where we stay. Sometimes, it has even been better value to take a cottage for a week.

But thousands of happy Club members do little beyond staying on Club Sites and and consider them excellent value for money, so the Club can maintain what it is now offering. Until the questions around prices actually cause thousands of members to alter the places they stay, the status quo will be maintained.

X is the price because Y are happy to pay it, and Z (Z being costs covered, plus whatever else the Club wants from its Sites) is currently on target. 

Simplified, but that’s how it works.😁

Edit: rather naughtily, I will also add that the last few generations of English persons are now becoming used to blindly paying what is asked (be it fuel, energy costs, house prices, mobile phones, bank accounts, rail travel, holiday prices, caravan and motorhome prices, car prices, etc.....) and seem unable or unwilling to look longer term. So the price of such commodities, now almost wholly provided by private companies, whose sole motivation is profit, are ruling the roost, and the few who question if this gives value are in the minority! 😉

replied on 19/06/2019 13:31

Posted on 19/06/2019 10:43 by huskydog

Just to keep a balance in the "real world " , found a site in Slovenia ,Terme Catez between August and December is 44 euro a night , and there's me thinking its soooo cheap out there cool

back to over here ,if it's a location I want ,I'll pay it 

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DavidKlyne replied on 19/06/2019 16:55

Posted on 18/06/2019 17:09 by ChrissieR

What determines the nightly rate at club sites?  I have just searched my two local sites, for the same weekend one is £36 for two nights, the other £47??

Posted on 19/06/2019 16:55

I must say I have often thought the same. On a previous trip we stay at Bridlington followed by Poolsbrook Country Park. There as a £10 difference in price for sites with similar quality of facilities. I suspect the main difference is down to location, location, location. As nice as Poolsbrook is its hinterland is probably not as popular as that of Bridlington. So popularity and location  has a price!!!

David

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