Edinburgh Tourist Tax

harryb replied on 11/01/2019 16:38

Posted on 11/01/2019 16:38

Has anyone else heard about the proposed tourist tax to be set by Edinburgh council. Apparently it will cover all types of accommodation so will affect the Edinburgh club site. The proposed fee is £2 per head which seems very steep.

We are used to paying this type of tax in France but that is generally only a few cents

geordie01 replied on 12/01/2019 16:36

Posted on 12/01/2019 16:36

Edinburgh has a tourist tax it is called a fiver for a pint. The last time we were there i did not even venture into the city centre.

KjellNN replied on 12/01/2019 17:02

Posted on 12/01/2019 15:00 by Wildwood

My feeling is that a £2 per room tax will make very little difference to hotels where an extra £2 will make very little difference to an already substantial price. If you are paying over £100 a night then £2 is insignificant although on the cheapest ones it just might slow things down a bit.

At the cheaper end of the market like camp sites where £2 is a greater proportion of the total cost it might be a problem and drive a few elsewhere.  Sites just outside the city boundary may find themselves more competitive or just add the tax value to make more money.

Time will tell, but I think because places abroad manage it successfully then it is bound to come in the tourist traps over here. It is difficult to see cash strapped councils missing out but it will mean a big advantage for places like Edinburgh in the ability to charge it. They do need to be careful though as if they overdo it then it may do far more harm than good.

Posted on 12/01/2019 17:02

Our experience abroad, mainly in Germany, has been that only certain areas have a tourist tax and that it is levied only in the peak seasons.

In Germany it is usually between 40 eurocents and 1 Euro, so a lot less than £2.  At one site in Switzerland it was 5 euros per adult per night, which made a huge difference to the site fee, so we moved on rather smartly.

IMO, 50p on site fees would be acceptable in Edinburgh, £2 would be enough to put people off.  The site fees are already pretty high.

JVB66 replied on 12/01/2019 17:15

Posted on 12/01/2019 17:15

As Corners posted the £2 per night would generate (with the tourist figures supplied)a huge amount, so either they have not told the whole truth of what the money is to be used for,,or it is an amount that the LA have used as a starting point and will,keep trying a lower rate until they find less resistance from the tourist industry rather than the local yokals

replied on 12/01/2019 18:56

Posted on 12/01/2019 13:11 by Cornersteady

some interesting statistics, I've found on http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20247/edinburgh_by_numbers/1012/edinburgh_by_numbers   

Number of Nights; domestic 6.99 million, overeas 8.64 million, making a total of 15.63 million

which 41% stayed in a hotel/B&B, and only 4% caravan/camping (it did not mention MHs but I assume they was included)

Now from https://www.visitscotland.org/research-insights/regions/edinburgh-lothians

Hotels were 50% full in January and 91% full in August with an average of 74% occupancy. Caravan& camping sites had an average of 35%, with peak of 74%

At £2 a head at 16.63 million nights of which only would be got from the 41% in a hotel and even if that is only per room so halved and taking the occupancy rate into account,  that is an awful lot of money generated.

Posted on 12/01/2019 18:56

That would depend on the framing of any legislation to implement such a scheme. It seems that many local authorities are struggling to maintain many local services.

It doesn't matter how you cut it. Ring fence to toilets, litter clearance, parks and garden and community police and all it will do is reduce burden on LA's expenditure leaving more in the kitty.

Hedgehurst replied on 12/01/2019 21:27

Posted on 11/01/2019 17:21 by Tammygirl

I think the Isle of Skye is looking at something similar. 

I don't mind paying a tourist tax as long as its reasonable and its used to help the environment I'm in, like for the Isle of Skye to provide more and better parking at the beauty spots, to upgrade the roads etc.  

Posted on 12/01/2019 21:27

Road improvement in Skye is an interesting one - a friend of ours used to be involved in studying road design. The unsurprising conclusion was that when you made roads bigger and better, to alleviate a problem, more people arrived on the bigger and better roads, until you had just as much of an overcrowding problem but with even more people, so you made bigger and better roads...
Since part of the already overcrowded Skye's appeal to the tourist industry which sustains so much of it, is that it is so remote, and has idiosyncratic roads, I hope they're factoring this into their planning.
It's the danger with us tourists, isn't it? We flock to find the unspoilt   places, and by so doing, spoil them.
And yes, we're planning to visit the Hebrides in April/May plus caravan ourselves, so are part of the problem!

 

Wildwood replied on 13/01/2019 11:44

Posted on 12/01/2019 21:27 by Hedgehurst

Road improvement in Skye is an interesting one - a friend of ours used to be involved in studying road design. The unsurprising conclusion was that when you made roads bigger and better, to alleviate a problem, more people arrived on the bigger and better roads, until you had just as much of an overcrowding problem but with even more people, so you made bigger and better roads...
Since part of the already overcrowded Skye's appeal to the tourist industry which sustains so much of it, is that it is so remote, and has idiosyncratic roads, I hope they're factoring this into their planning.
It's the danger with us tourists, isn't it? We flock to find the unspoilt   places, and by so doing, spoil them.
And yes, we're planning to visit the Hebrides in April/May plus caravan ourselves, so are part of the problem!

 

Posted on 13/01/2019 11:44

I think Skye is probably different. It is quite remote and you have to be determined to go there. Better roads are unlikely to increase numbers greatly as it is too far from anywhere to be further overrun. At the moment there is a well publicised problem more with parking than the roads and people still go.

rayjsj replied on 13/01/2019 11:59

Posted on 13/01/2019 11:59

Tourist Tax,  a chicken that lays golden eggs, but is easily scared away....ask Egypt.  We hate big cities anyway, and wouldnt go to Skye in a peak season, and a £2 tax would mean i never go to Edinburgh. Not to stay anyway.  It is central governments reduction of passing on general taxation that is causing these ' cunning plans' by local councils to recoup funds.....destroying town centers by overcharging motorists, Tourist tax...etc.  another possible destination struck off of the list.

 

 

 

DavidKlyne replied on 13/01/2019 12:28

Posted on 13/01/2019 12:28

Given that I am unlikely to visit Edinburgh on a regular basis I can't see any tourist tax being likely to prevent me from going there as my visits would be pretty irregular. The same would be true of any other places. I understand that Bath are thinking along the same lines. It is rumoured that Venice may start charging visitors €10 a time to visit. As we both love Venice it would not stop us visiting there. The reality is that the costs involved in getting to either Edinburgh or Venice so outweigh the modest cost of a visitor tax its not really worth taking into account in the scheme of things?

David

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